By the way, it stinks to high heavens when software supposedly made for communication won't even enable the users OF the software to talk ABOUT the software. I didn't realize what the problem was until now but ... wow. Xwiki wiki must be a piece of shit if it can't even support talking about itself on an Xwiki wiki server. That must be why my subconscious was shying away from Xwikiwiki and the other thing. Only Wagn developers eat their own dog food. You talk about X Wiki Wiki changing communications ... <sneer> You don't even believe it will change YOUR communications. The lack of faith you have in your own product is ... almost astonishing, but mostly a combination <facepalm> and <contempt>. And THAT, your lack of faith in your own product, shows you're not a strategist nor a visionary nor a dreamer nor an inventor nor anything else. You're just a filthy backwards-looking engineer. Ugh.