Hi, yeah but i thought the database would handle any conflicts, beside a read only mode is enough for enterprise environment. It would allow employees to access all the information needed offline, changes could be code only like XEclipse, which get solved once online again. E.G. in the company I'm working most of our handbooks, guidelines should get accessed through XWiki; often employees go to meetings on buildings sites where there is no internet connection, which means they have to access all the handbooks via filesystem, which is slow as they need to scroll through a foldersystem with ~1000 guides. I think here would be the real advantage of an offline XWiki. Regards Thomas
Well this is not really enough, as this locks you in read-only mode. Concerto was meant to provide offline, but you need some additional code and storage on both the server and the client to run the replication model. The replication model is what guarantees solutions to conflicts..
Now conflict are very very rare when you look at the use cases, and a much simpler replication model which could fail on conflicts would be probably largely enough for most cases.
Concerto is quite overkill for the simple replication scenario. The power of Concerto is P2P replication just using a relay network which does not store anything. But in this world this scenario does not have a big future.
Ludovic
This sounds kind of like Concerto also sharing the Advantages and the Disadvanges
However, some mid way would be nice in future (the sooner the better) simple rendering and maybe search in XEclipse would be great.
Yes, XEclipse does need some love. We'll see.
Thanks, Eduard
Regards
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Eduard Moraru Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juli 2010 16:46 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] state of xwiki concerto
Hi,
On 07/06/2010 04:07 PM, Thomas Hoeschele wrote:
Just jumping in here, as I have to ask this: is there any Possilibity to
Use XWiki Offline apart from Concerto? I consider this a crucial feature for a lot of enterprise where employees have to work outside or have no internet in meetings.
Btw, I thing something like XEclipse with Page preview would suffice.
thank !
Well, XEclipse was originally part of the XWiki Concerto research project as well. AFAIK, there is currently no XWiki Offline standalone project.
So there are basically 2 options for offline work with xwiki: Concerto and XEclipse.
- Concerto involves having a local (in offline work context) xwiki installation that replicates completely or partially a remote xwiki. - Advantage: full featured XWiki experience. - Dissadvantage: big footprint, possibly instable due to current status. - XEclipse involves downloading a set of pages (or entire spaces) and working in an Eclipse environment. - Advantage: light, syntax highlighting, suggestions, etc. - Disadvantage: only wiki syntax mode is supported and partial rendering (since you don't have the wiki's entire contents with you).
Both options synchronize with remote XWiki when internet is available.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, Eduard
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Datum: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:06:41 +0100 Von: Ponder Muse<[email protected]> An: XWiki Users<[email protected]> Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] state of xwiki concerto
Hi Eduard,
I have fixed the build issues and now Concerto should be building without problems.
Please make sure to follow the steps described at http://concerto.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Tutorial
Thanks for your efforts in making Concerto available again.
On the other hand, if you can wait a couple of hours, I am sure I will find a place to host the 80mb jar installer build of Concerto that I remade and fix the link available at http://concerto.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/DownloadAndInstall Please check the page for updates in about 12 hours.
I will give the built installer a go once its available at the above link.
Thank you for your interest in Concerto and I would greatly appreciate
your feedback on it, even though the development on this project is currently suspended.
Sure thing, I'll do that.
P.S.: Please keep in mind that, as Sergiu stated, even though the
project ended successfully, the prototype is not ready for production. I checked it, and it's running decently with the bundled XWiki Enterprise 1.8.1, but you should not use it for sensitive information.
No worries with it being just a prototype as we will trial it in a controlled lab environment only.
Thanks again for your efforts - much appreciated!
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