[xwiki-users] Translations
Hi, to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib. This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility. However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login. In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username or password". This text is NOT part of the property file. Where is the place to translate this texts? Stefan Bachert __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib. This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login. In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username or password". This text is NOT part of the property file. Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys in it.
Stefan Bachert
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Hi, some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place. it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly. Stefan Bachert ________________________________ Von: Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> An: XWiki Users <[email protected]> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib. This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login. In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username or password". This text is NOT part of the property file. Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys in it.
Stefan Bachert
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Hi Stefan, On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:46 AM, stefan bachert wrote:
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient.
This is not very polite. I'd suggest you refrain yourself from criticizing too strongly the work of others unless you can prove you can do better. It's also not the way you're going to get more of the free support you've been getting for the past several days here. Now on a positive thought: Why don't you improve it? Just send patches and xwiki committers will review them and commit them if they're good.
You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
Thanks -Vincent
The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Stefan Bachert
________________________________ Von: Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> An: XWiki Users <[email protected]> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib. This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login. In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username or password". This text is NOT part of the property file. Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys in it.
Stefan Bachert
Hi Stefan, On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Stefan,
On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:46 AM, stefan bachert wrote:
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient.
This is not very polite. I'd suggest you refrain yourself from criticizing too strongly the work of others unless you can prove you can do better. It's also not the way you're going to get more of the free support you've been getting for the past several days here.
Ok I was told that you probably didn't really mean "ugly". Words are powerful so they need to be chosen carefully... Sergiu pointed to me that on small resolutions the table is overflowing on the main page. It used to work fine so someone must have changed the CSS. This can be fixed easily. I've pinged Caty (she's done the theme/CSS for l10n) to see if she can fix it. Criticism is good and really needed to improve so please continue reporting shortfalls but please try to say them in a nice manner, that helps a lot. And if you have suggestions we'd love to hear them too.
Now on a positive thought: Why don't you improve it? Just send patches and xwiki committers will review them and commit them if they're good.
That still stands! All help is most welcome. Nobody is "responsible" for l10n and everyone tries to help in his free time. Thanks -Vincent (speaking for myself here of course, I'm not representing the xwiki project or anything like that)
You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
Thanks -Vincent
The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Stefan Bachert
________________________________ Von: Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> An: XWiki Users <[email protected]> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib. This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login. In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username or password". This text is NOT part of the property file. Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys in it.
Stefan Bachert
On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Stefan,
On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Stefan,
On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:46 AM, stefan bachert wrote:
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient.
This is not very polite. I'd suggest you refrain yourself from criticizing too strongly the work of others unless you can prove you can do better. It's also not the way you're going to get more of the free support you've been getting for the past several days here.
Ok I was told that you probably didn't really mean "ugly". Words are powerful so they need to be chosen carefully...
Sergiu pointed to me that on small resolutions the table is overflowing on the main page. It used to work fine so someone must have changed the CSS. This can be fixed easily. I've pinged Caty (she's done the theme/CSS for l10n) to see if she can fix it.
ok I think I've fixed it. Let me know if it's good for you now. Thanks -Vincent
Criticism is good and really needed to improve so please continue reporting shortfalls but please try to say them in a nice manner, that helps a lot. And if you have suggestions we'd love to hear them too.
Now on a positive thought: Why don't you improve it? Just send patches and xwiki committers will review them and commit them if they're good.
That still stands! All help is most welcome. Nobody is "responsible" for l10n and everyone tries to help in his free time.
Thanks -Vincent (speaking for myself here of course, I'm not representing the xwiki project or anything like that)
You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
Thanks -Vincent
The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Stefan Bachert
________________________________ Von: Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> An: XWiki Users <[email protected]> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib. This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login. In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username or password". This text is NOT part of the property file. Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys in it.
Stefan Bachert
I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki in Latvian.
Hi, some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and it was imported by Ludovic Dubost. Further improvements/additions I do online. Provided search was not good enough for me, so I helped to improve it. Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by (poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think? To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody needs to develop it. Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer accordingly ;-)
The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place. it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is changing incrementally. Valdis
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:38, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki in Latvian.
Hi, some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and it was imported by Ludovic Dubost.
Yes that's what is explained on http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/AddALanguage
Further improvements/additions I do online. Provided search was not good enough for me, so I helped to improve it. Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by (poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like: o search in translated o search in original o search in key
To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody
There is a lot of caching, if you load a page once then it's refreshing instantly after. Now when you modify something the caches that can be changed by the modification made are cleaned and so take so time to reconstruct the stats tables. We could improve that by modifying the cache instead of cleaning it but it's more work.
needs to develop it. Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer accordingly ;-)
The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place. it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is changing incrementally.
Valdis
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-- Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:52, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:38, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki in Latvian.
Hi, some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and it was imported by Ludovic Dubost.
Yes that's what is explained on http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/AddALanguage
Further improvements/additions I do online. Provided search was not good enough for me, so I helped to improve it. Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by (poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated o search in original o search in key
To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody
There is a lot of caching, if you load a page once then it's refreshing instantly after. Now when you modify something the caches that can be changed by the modification made are cleaned and so take so time to reconstruct the stats tables. We could improve that by modifying the cache instead of cleaning it but it's more work.
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed it's very slow i will see if i can do something to improve it.
needs to develop it. Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer accordingly ;-)
The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place. it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is changing incrementally.
Valdis
_______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:55, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:52, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:38, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki in Latvian.
Hi, some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and it was imported by Ludovic Dubost.
Yes that's what is explained on http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/AddALanguage
Further improvements/additions I do online. Provided search was not good enough for me, so I helped to improve it. Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by (poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated o search in original o search in key
To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody
There is a lot of caching, if you load a page once then it's refreshing instantly after. Now when you modify something the caches that can be changed by the modification made are cleaned and so take so time to reconstruct the stats tables. We could improve that by modifying the cache instead of cleaning it but it's more work.
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed it's very slow i will see if i can do something to improve it.
And by the way after searching something you go to http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/Search and here you have an extended search already.
needs to develop it. Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer accordingly ;-)
The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place. it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is changing incrementally.
Valdis
_______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:56, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:55, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:52, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:38, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
I can share my experience as localizer for Xwiki in Latvian.
Hi, some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
First few thousand of lines I translated offline using resource file and it was imported by Ludovic Dubost.
Yes that's what is explained on http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/AddALanguage
Further improvements/additions I do online. Provided search was not good enough for me, so I helped to improve it. Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by (poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated o search in original o search in key
To solve issue that site is quite slow, it should be investigated about caching possibilities, or import/export tool would be nice, but somebody
There is a lot of caching, if you load a page once then it's refreshing instantly after. Now when you modify something the caches that can be changed by the modification made are cleaned and so take so time to reconstruct the stats tables. We could improve that by modifying the cache instead of cleaning it but it's more work.
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed it's very slow i will see if i can do something to improve it.
And by the way after searching something you go to http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/Search and here you have an extended search already.
(If you use the search panel or the left, and not the standard XWiki search)
needs to develop it. Though, if so many people can live with Windows, i10n.xwiki.org is not the worst one, which teaches us to manage our time with computer accordingly ;-)
The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place. it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Currently not all labels are made to use external resources, but it is changing incrementally.
Valdis
_______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Thomas Mortagne
Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by (poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated o search in original o search in key
It is already implemented in http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/Search I propose to change "Search translation" field shown in home page from key to translated text in panel http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10NCode/SearchPanel (I have no edit rights to do it myself).
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed it's very slow i will see if i can do something to improve it.
Good luck in your investigation! Valdis
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:08, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I'd like to change it once more because for me searching by (poorly) translated text, not the key is more usual. What do you think?
Yes good idea. I could easily do a extended search form I guess like:
o search in translated o search in original o search in key
It is already implemented in http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/Search I propose to change "Search translation" field shown in home page from key to translated text in panel http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10NCode/SearchPanel
Done.
(I have no edit rights to do it myself).
Hmm i never tried the search before now and indeed it's very slow i will see if i can do something to improve it.
Good luck in your investigation! Valdis
-- Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 09:46, stefan bachert <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
some texts used in the login dialog are neither in ApplicationResources_de.properties nor in ApplicationResources.properties nor in i10n.xwiki.org. And using i10n.xwiki.org is very ugly and inefficient. You can drink a cup of coffee after sending a request
If the key you are searching is not in ApplicationResources.properties then that's the bug and the text you are trying to translate is probably hardcoded and does not use l10n system. You should report it on http://jira.xwiki.org
The following text is part of the login dialog key:remembermeonthiscomp found in i10n, ApplicationResources(de,default) Text:Auf diesem Computer angemeldet bleiben
However, there are translated texts like "Forgot your username?". Obviously they are not used at this place.
it seems on the long run I have to check the code directly.
Stefan Bachert
________________________________ Von: Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> An: XWiki Users <[email protected]> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 22:59:31 Uhr Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Translations
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 17:30, stefan bachert <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
to translate texts into a more correct german I extracted ApplicationResources_de.properties to WEB_INF/lib. This seems to work. I am willing to share this with others, however, it would took days when I am using the i10n.xwiki.org facility.
However, some translation I did not found. One of them comes up when trying to login. In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username or password". This text is NOT part of the property file. Where is the place to translate this texts?
You don't have it in the ApplicationResources_de.properties because no translation has been provided for it. The place to translate any text in always http://l10n.xwiki.org, i doubt you can't find the right keys in it.
Stefan Bachert
__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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-- Thomas Mortagne
Hi, id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :). One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language. Thanks hel. ----- semantic-web.hel.at [email protected] -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Translations-tp4620146p4624988.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On 02/24/2010 11:55 AM, hel-o wrote:
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Yes, we did this for .ro at http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussion/XE_Ro You can google-translate it to see what kind of discussion we had. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
Will the new page http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German be ok? Valdis
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Thanks hel.
----- semantic-web.hel.at [email protected]
On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Valdis Vītoliņš wrote:
Will the new page http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German be ok?
This sounds like a very good idea to me! Thanks -Vincent
Valdis
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Thanks hel.
On Feb 24, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Valdis Vītoliņš wrote:
Will the new page http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German be ok?
This sounds like a very good idea to me!
For now I've added a link from the Quick Links panel. Thanks -Vincent
Valdis
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Thanks hel.
Hi,
Will the new page http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German be ok?
Yes thats great. Also i too think that the proposal thomas made would be a better solution in a long term. Thanks hel. ----- semantic-web.hel.at [email protected] -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Translations-tp4620146p4627040.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 13:18, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
Will the new page http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German be ok?
Could you look at my general proposal on the original mail thread. I think it's better than creating wild discussion pages on l10n wiki.
Valdis
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Thanks hel.
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On Feb 24, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 13:18, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
Will the new page http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German be ok?
Could you look at my general proposal on the original mail thread. I think it's better than creating wild discussion pages on l10n wiki.
I probably missed this proposal. Thomas would you have a link? Thanks -Vincent
Valdis
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Thanks hel.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 14:35, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Feb 24, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 13:18, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
Will the new page http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Discussions/German be ok?
Could you look at my general proposal on the original mail thread. I think it's better than creating wild discussion pages on l10n wiki.
I probably missed this proposal. Thomas would you have a link?
that's on the "[xwiki-users] Translations" thread started by stefan bachert where hel-o asked for the same thing: a place to discuss translations rules
Thanks -Vincent
Valdis
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Thanks hel.
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:55, hel-o <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Sounds a good idea indeed. We could have a page by language you access by clicking on the flags on the right for example. When you are in the main page it goes to a page related to the whole wiki and then you can also create a page related to each application that has the global page as parent (the flag panel would change the link based on the context). Lets say /L10N/TranslationRules: general rules whatever the application or language /L10N/TranslationRules_<language>: general rules about the language "language" whatever the application /<APP>/TranslationRules : any specific about the application "APP" whatever the language /<APP>/TranslationRules_<language>: any specific about the application "APP" in language "language" For a specific translation key you can directly comment on the translation page like http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Wysiwyg/WysiwygStringsproperties_-54181... What don't you think ?
Thanks hel.
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 14:02, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:55, hel-o <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
id also like to suggest, that we come to some form of cooperation in doing the german translation since i did most part of it till yet (and hope that not all of it is incorrect german :).
One question to the developers is there a possibility to have a editable page or space in the translation wiki wher translators could share their thougts and keep a terminology for their language.
Sounds a good idea indeed. We could have a page by language you access by clicking on the flags on the right for example. When you are in the main page it goes to a page related to the whole wiki and then you can also create a page related to each application that has the global page as parent (the flag panel would change the link based on the context).
Lets say
/L10N/TranslationRules: general rules whatever the application or language /L10N/TranslationRules_<language>: general rules about the language "language" whatever the application /<APP>/TranslationRules : any specific about the application "APP" whatever the language /<APP>/TranslationRules_<language>: any specific about the application "APP" in language "language"
For a specific translation key you can directly comment on the translation page like http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Wysiwyg/WysiwygStringsproperties_-54181...
What don't you think ?
Done. See http://l10n.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/L10N/TranslationRules
Thanks hel.
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Hi Stefan, bitte nicht schimpfen, lieber mitmachen und helfen … Please don't rant on how bad is XWiki internationalized - better help to improve translations. XWiki it open source peoduct, that means: You have always free choice: - not to use XWiki, if you find it bad - to consume XWiki and be satisfied with the work of other people, which you get for free - participate in the development if you will have it better. It was a great work of many contributors to get XWiki running in different languages. This work is not finished yet and any help is appreciated. E.g. there are some missing translations and hard coded messages in English – partially in javascript files from third party developers, partially in xml files from a default set of XWiki pages (.xar-Archiv), partially in templates. As to your question:
In the last line of the dialog the texts are still in english "Forgot your username or password".
This message comes from /templates/login.vm #if($xwiki.exists("XWiki.ResetPassword")) <div style="font-size: 70%; margin-top: 2em;">Forgot your $xwiki.getURL('XWiki.ForgotUsername') username or $xwiki.getURL('XWiki.ResetPassword') password ?</div> #end - just translate english words in German. Or better – create one new keyword for this message and replace it with $msg.get (‘keyword’). If you are not satisfied or don't agree with the meaning of some translations in ApplicationResources_de file, you can also create your own local page with translations inside your wiki – in this case values from ApplicationRecourses_de will be overwritten - see “Using properties located in XWiki pages“) - http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/InternationalizingApplicat... ----- Best Regards, Alla -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Translations-tp4620146p4625326.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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