[xwiki-users] structured and unstructured data in the same page using AWM
Hello everybody. Here I'am again =). Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the right place now). So, let me answer what Marius asked on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085 First, let me explain better what I said on Jira: plain text = unstructured information dynamic label = properties dynamic object = structured information The situation: I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided to make a livetable to filter and show the results. I`ve set some parameters like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify the Product. Here is the problem: Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name, Category, Applies to, Price). I`am not able to insert plain text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc. When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the content, but it doesn't show what I had writen. Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing list that there was no reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place as structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant to store this type of data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck). What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or properties(whatever is the right name =)) to be able to identify and sort the itens(by using livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need unstructured + structured data in the same place. Let me paint you a picture with the example below: ______________________________________ Product name: AGX Category: Music Stand Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar. Price: 30 ______________________________________ = Description: = _______ | Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value for money you will ever find.,,, = Strenghts and Weaknesses = ...... _______________________________________ That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please let me know. Thank you very much. Att. Leonardo.
Hi Leonardo, On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =). Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the right place now). So, let me answer what Marius asked on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira: plain text = unstructured information dynamic label = properties dynamic object = structured information
The situation: I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided to make a livetable to filter and show the results. I`ve set some parameters like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify the Product.
Here is the problem: Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name, Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc. When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte ( http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+Appl... ) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing list that there was no reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place as structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant to store this type of data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or properties(whatever is the right name =)) to be able to identify and sort the itens(by using livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________ Product name: AGX Category: Music Stand Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar. Price: 30 ______________________________________
= Description: = _______ | Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses = ...... _______________________________________
You have two options: (1) Use the Long Text field or (2) even better, use the Content field. The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product wiki page. Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings, images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works. I'm curious why this didn't work for your. Hope this helps, Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please let me know.
Thank you very much. Att. Leonardo. _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hi Marius. Thank you for you answer. Here is the link I read: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Default-editing-mode-for-page-with-object-... Maybe I misunderstood what you said in this link. I'm reading it again and I realized, with the comments you've just made, that I just need to put the plain text inside of an object like you said. Sometimes we can see what is in front of our eyes. I'm sorry. It's too much information to retain in such short time. Xwiki is a great tool and It has so many features that I never thought Content field would serve as a plain text editor. My bad. Thank you for spending your time with this. Sometimes we have silly questions and we need someone to explain things better. =) Att, Leonardo. 2014-02-25 11:53 GMT-03:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]>:
Hi Leonardo,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =). Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the right place now). So, let me answer what Marius asked on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira: plain text = unstructured information dynamic label = properties dynamic object = structured information
The situation: I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided to make a livetable to filter and show the results. I`ve set some parameters like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify the Product.
Here is the problem: Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name, Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc. When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+Appl... ) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing list that there was no reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place as structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant to store this type of data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or
properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and sort the itens(by using livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________ Product name: AGX Category: Music Stand Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar. Price: 30 ______________________________________
= Description: = _______ | Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses = ...... _______________________________________
You have two options:
(1) Use the Long Text field or
(2) even better, use the Content field.
The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product wiki page.
Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings, images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works.
I'm curious why this didn't work for your.
Hope this helps, Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please
let
me know.
Thank you very much. Att. Leonardo. _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Just a side question: There is a way to insert images as a field in the app?The Field palette doesn't offer this option. I know there is a way to create new properties( http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/CreatingNewXClassPropertyT...), but it requires some work to insert it. Suggestion: Bundle this new field(image or file) in future releases. It would be nice to see this feature without the need of making some work in Wiki's background. Thank you. 2014-02-25 13:52 GMT-03:00 Leonardo Kodato <[email protected]>:
Hi Marius. Thank you for you answer.
Here is the link I read: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Default-editing-mode-for-page-with-object-... Maybe I misunderstood what you said in this link.
I'm reading it again and I realized, with the comments you've just made, that I just need to put the plain text inside of an object like you said. Sometimes we can see what is in front of our eyes. I'm sorry. It's too much information to retain in such short time. Xwiki is a great tool and It has so many features that I never thought Content field would serve as a plain text editor. My bad.
Thank you for spending your time with this. Sometimes we have silly questions and we need someone to explain things better. =)
Att, Leonardo.
2014-02-25 11:53 GMT-03:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]>:
Hi Leonardo,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =). Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the right place now). So, let me answer what Marius asked on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira: plain text = unstructured information dynamic label = properties dynamic object = structured information
The situation: I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided to make a livetable to filter and show the results. I`ve set some parameters like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify the Product.
Here is the problem: Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name, Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc. When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+Appl... ) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing list that there was no reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place as structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant to store this type of data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or
properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and sort the itens(by using livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________ Product name: AGX Category: Music Stand Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar. Price: 30 ______________________________________
= Description: = _______ | Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses = ...... _______________________________________
You have two options:
(1) Use the Long Text field or
(2) even better, use the Content field.
The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product wiki page.
Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings, images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works.
I'm curious why this didn't work for your.
Hope this helps, Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please
let
me know.
Thank you very much. Att. Leonardo. _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Leonardo Kodato <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a side question: There is a way to insert images as a field in the app?The Field palette doesn't offer this option. I know there is a way to create new properties( http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/CreatingNewXClassPropertyT...), but it requires some work to insert it.
Suggestion: Bundle this new field(image or file) in future releases. It would be nice to see this feature without the need of making some work in Wiki's background.
This is already reported: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8589 http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8590 http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8587 http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8588 we just need time to implement it. Thanks, Marius
Thank you.
2014-02-25 13:52 GMT-03:00 Leonardo Kodato <[email protected]>:
Hi Marius. Thank you for you answer.
Here is the link I read: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Default-editing-mode-for-page-with-object-... Maybe I misunderstood what you said in this link.
I'm reading it again and I realized, with the comments you've just made, that I just need to put the plain text inside of an object like you said. Sometimes we can see what is in front of our eyes. I'm sorry. It's too much information to retain in such short time. Xwiki is a great tool and It has so many features that I never thought Content field would serve as a plain text editor. My bad.
Thank you for spending your time with this. Sometimes we have silly questions and we need someone to explain things better. =)
Att, Leonardo.
2014-02-25 11:53 GMT-03:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]>:
Hi Leonardo,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =). Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the right place now). So, let me answer what Marius asked on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira: plain text = unstructured information dynamic label = properties dynamic object = structured information
The situation: I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided to make a livetable to filter and show the results. I`ve set some parameters like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify the Product.
Here is the problem: Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name, Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc. When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+Appl... ) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing list that there was no reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place as structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant to store this type of data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or
properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and sort the itens(by using livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________ Product name: AGX Category: Music Stand Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar. Price: 30 ______________________________________
= Description: = _______ | Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses = ...... _______________________________________
You have two options:
(1) Use the Long Text field or
(2) even better, use the Content field.
The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product wiki page.
Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings, images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works.
I'm curious why this didn't work for your.
Hope this helps, Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please
let
me know.
Thank you very much. Att. Leonardo. _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Leonardo Kodato <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Marius. Thank you for you answer.
Here is the link I read: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Default-editing-mode-for-page-with-object-... Maybe I misunderstood what you said in this link.
{quote} Once you add an object with a sheet to a page you basically make that page a structured page and thus the user needs to edit the structured data when he clicks Edit. It's not a plain wiki page any more. {quote} The fact that the page becomes 'structured' doesn't mean it cannot hold unstructured information any more. By 'structure' I mean (key, value) pairs, but the value can have either a very specific type, like Date, or a generic type, like 'TextArea', which allows you to store unstructured data (i.e. free text). Moreover, even if the page is structured (i.e. has an object attached), you can still use the document content to store unstructured data. This is what the 'Content' field from AWM does. Hope this helps, Marius
I'm reading it again and I realized, with the comments you've just made, that I just need to put the plain text inside of an object like you said. Sometimes we can see what is in front of our eyes. I'm sorry. It's too much information to retain in such short time. Xwiki is a great tool and It has so many features that I never thought Content field would serve as a plain text editor. My bad.
Thank you for spending your time with this. Sometimes we have silly questions and we need someone to explain things better. =)
Att, Leonardo.
2014-02-25 11:53 GMT-03:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]>:
Hi Leonardo,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Leonardo Kodato <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello everybody.
Here I'am again =). Vicent explained to me what jira and mailing-lists are used for some time ago. So, I moved the discussion over there =). (hope I'm posting in the right place now). So, let me answer what Marius asked on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10085
First, let me explain better what I said on Jira: plain text = unstructured information dynamic label = properties dynamic object = structured information
The situation: I have a Space called Product. In this place I store all the products my company makes(around 50-70 itens). Because of this variety, I've decided to make a livetable to filter and show the results. I`ve set some parameters like Product name, Category, Applies to... to be able to easily identify the Product.
Here is the problem: Using App Within Minutes I can only insert structured data(Product name, Category, Applies to, Price).
I`am not able to insert plain text(unstructured) like photos, opinions, competitors, etc. When I try to insert this type of data(unstructured), it does saves the content, but it doesn't show what I had writen.
Which field from the Field Paltte (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+Appl... ) did you used for the unstructured data?
Some time ago I read somewhere in Xwiki`s mailing list that there was no reason to place this type of information(unstructured) in the same place as structured information and that AWM wasn`t meant to store this type of data(I`m trying to find the link, but so far I had no luck).
This is definitely not true. AWM can be used to manage both structured and unstructured data.
What I would like to do is insert some tags, labels or
properties(whatever
is the right name =)) to be able to identify and sort the itens(by using livetable). I can do it by using AWM, but it is not enough. I need unstructured + structured data in the same place.
Let me paint you a picture with the example below:
______________________________________ Product name: AGX Category: Music Stand Applies to: Acoustic and Eletric Guitar. Price: 30 ______________________________________
= Description: = _______ | Photo | AGX is a state-of-the-art music stand. It has the best value for money you will ever find.,,,
= Strenghts and Weaknesses = ...... _______________________________________
You have two options:
(1) Use the Long Text field or
(2) even better, use the Content field.
The first stores the unstructured content in a TextArea property of an object attached to the "Product" page (in your case) while the second stores the unstructured data directly in the content of the Product wiki page.
Both will offer you a WYSIWYG editor when you add/edit a new application entry (a new Product in your case), unless you have choosen to use the wiki editor in your user profile. In any case, you can put whatever content you want in the text area, and it will be rendered nicely in view mode. So you can definitely put headings, images, links, tables, etc, everything you can do with the WYSIWYG editor or with the wiki syntax. I just checked this and it works.
I'm curious why this didn't work for your.
Hope this helps, Marius
That is what I'm trying to do. If I have not been clear enough, please
let
me know.
Thank you very much. Att. Leonardo. _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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