On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:33, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 22:50, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Caty and all,
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
Hi,
For a while we've been discussing how the new Rights Management UI is gonna look like. After 5 prototype versions, we may have reached a conclusion.
Please take a look at: *Prototype* http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space *Explanations* http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/RightsProposal
Please cast your vote if this is gonna be the final Rights representation, so that we may start the implementation. my +1 Any feedback is welcomed and we can still added improvements to this version.
The current version is a collaborative work done by me, Denis Gervalle, Raluca Stavro, Alex Busenius, Roman Muntyanu and many others (Guillaume, Sergiu, Vincent, Thomas). Thanks everyone for participating in the process.
+1
I like it.
One question: Why does it say on Rights51Space for the view right that "Allowed only for evalica" when view right is also allowed for all users in the Admin group?
Other questions:
* Why does that second column says "Users"? Shouldn't it be "Users and Groups"?
Well groups are also users at the end, but why not...
The reason I mention this is because the first column says type and then you have "users" and "groups" and not just "users". It's for consistency and I think from a user POV they're both different things.
I agree with Vincent here "users and group" would be a lot clearer for users. The fact that "groups are also users at the end" is pretty technical for basic user.
* Why does the extended rights view is called "advanced"? For me it's not related to advanced or not advanced. It's just a folded view and a full view. A right contributed by some extension might be as important as one of the default rights.
Well, this is a point of view. The basic interface allow managing commons rights, and will probably be the only view allowed for users that have not their profile set to "Advanced" (like what is done for the edit menu, which is only shown to advanced users)
Yes this is exactly what I think is wrong.
Whoever has the right to modify rights should see all rights. There shouldn't be a notion of advanced or not because additional rights are *not* advanced stuff. Actually to give an example, the programming right itself could be considered advanced while a new right such as "ability to post messages in a forum" would be a basic right.
Thanks -Vincent
Right interface is complex, but access to it is also possible for simple editors not only for admins. Those only need to manage read/write access to their page, and those will not understand the ins and outs of the extended rights. This is mainly why we see this as 2 different view of the same stuff: a basic view, and an advance view. You have a similar behavior in the right management interface of Windows ACLs. Note that in basic view, you have a summary icon (currently a lock, but this should be improved) that shows if there is some advanced rights locally set. The tooltips for this icon list the rights locally set and their allowance, but does not allow changing them (in the sample, the allowance is not shown, this is probably a mistake)
Denis
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
p.s: former discussion about mocking process can be seen at [Proposal] Rights Management UI http://markmail.org/thread/zgzufskvhe6xt6ey
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