21 Sep
2007
21 Sep
'07
10:59 a.m.
Hallooooooo
Well i kinda reached the point of another stupid question:
after a click around-round on
http://wikihost:8080/xwiki/bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences
and turning eny authentication option to yes i dont know the default
administration accont.
is there some default admin account (beside that superadmin)?
or should i have done that BEFORE clicking around?
When i compare all the .war packaged software to what i am used from php
based things (wiki, forums, cms) the most foolproof procedure is this:
- upload the files (*.php, .war) to appfolder
- connect to the page (http://host/appfolder)
- when nothing was installed yet, the installer starts
- it asks for the database connection parameters
- it asks for an admin account (username, emails, password)
- it then installs (creates db, tables, admin account, default files)
- in xwiki case even an option to import the default pages from that
.xar could be added
- done. a link to the startpage
- now one can login with the admin account and start configuration
- if i dont configure the application at this point no damage can be
done by anonmyous users. so the default settings are normally a bit
strict. but well a wiki may be more open than a cms.
the goal should be to not have to manually edit config files, security
params whatsoever.
in bamboo (or was it teamcity? both java.war based installations) the
location of the log file is configured during the installtion steps.
everything crucial to the application.
the side effect is: no one ever reads instructions. cause its straight
forward and alwys the same. no stupid questions either ;-D
in my opnion we java people should learn from the comfort those php guys
came up with.
thanks for listening :)
regards
ossi
Vincent Massol schrieb:
Hi ossi,
On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:48 AM, ossi petz wrote:
Hallo
I did read those pages. I promise! Really! I mean it! Initially it
didnt
work with the original Mysql dialect. Probably because i did not yet
solve the security trouble i had at that moment.
i cleaned the database and changed from Mysql5 to the Mysql Dialect
and
OH see! it works! :-)
Glad you got it working!
yet it amazes me: mysql did change a lot of
things from version 4.1 to
5.0 (join syntax, sql strict). i was kinda expecting more detailed
requirements on the database versions. i do a lot of work and
installations on php based software. they all distinguish mysql
4.0, 4.1
and 5.0 versions. compared to mediawiki the setup takes ages. well 2
hours compared to 20 minutes. no disaster - yet space for
improvement :)
Well there are 2 options when installing:
1) User want to try quickly or is not too technical: He uses the
standalone installation. (the zip, installer jar or exe). There's
nothing to do, it's all setup; No container, no db to setup.
2) User wants control on his container + DB and is technical: He
picks the WAR AND reads the documentation.
For 1), setup takes under a minute.
For 2), I would say setup should take about 10 minutes max if you
follow the documentation.
Still I'd like to understand why it took longer for you and how
mediawiki's setup is simpler so that we can improve the setup.
Thanks
-Vincent
ready for testing now.
thanks a lot!
regards
ossi
Vincent Massol schrieb:
> Hi ossi,
>
> Why don't you check the Installation guide on xwiki.org? :)
>
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
>
> You'll see that it has a section about MySQL:
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationMySQL
>
> The dialect there is different from the one you used. What's sure is
> that the issue is a Hibernate configuration issue.
>
> Hopefully, that should solve the trial and error issue :)
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> On Sep 20, 2007, at 7:35 PM, ossi petz wrote:
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