On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Richard Kulisz <richardkulisz(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
On 9/26/13, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
Hi,
:) Hi back.
1) You work on designing and implementing your
ideas on the xwiki engine
2) You look at Federated wiki, the new project from Ward Cunningham,
which
may achieve what you're looking after
Federated Wiki supports aristocracy. Everyone is "free" to have a wiki
(or own land) if they're a programmer or technical-type. This is like
everyone is free to own land so long as they're a noble or they've
paid a noble for the privilege. This is morally wrong, very very
morally wrong. I don't support programmer aristocracy which is the
political ideology behind so-called "free software". I support
democracy, and anarchist democracy at that.
Software will never be democratic until someone with 0 minutes of
setup and 0 minutes of education or training in programming can start
to program. I do not desire "low" barriers to programming, I desire
ZERO barriers to programming. You start with a child who's never seen
a computer before, and with either an OS or browser, they can start
programming that very minute. It's possible and I know how to make it
happen. It was done with LOGO for goodness' sake.
Let me see it in reality and then we can discuss to see it in virtual
world. Show me a child that knows from the start how to speak, or to walk,
or whatever you'd like. Programming isn't breathing; and even in that case
there are some conditions changes and screaming involved.
The second criterion is that someone with absolutely no technical
knowledge or training can lodge a ticket for a feature or idea and
have it be taken seriously. Perhaps because they put money behind it,
perhaps because *others* put their money behind it. Currently, that is
never possible unless you have hundreds or thousand of euro to spend.
Consider how far society would go if you needed to spend hundreds or
thousands of euro to have an auto mechanic even CONSIDER putting in an
airbag into your auto.
I've taken a closer look at Federated Wiki and Ward has proven that he
is completely clueless. In the first video I saw, he said "this is the
future of sharing" and yet he held up as an example COPYING, which is
the OPPOSITE of sharing.
Ward uses words the way other people use words, very sloppily. And he
builds ideas out of those sloppy concepts. The same way that you talk
about life and life forms and living without being able to produce a
formal definition of life.
He doesn't actually *comprehend* the concepts that he uses and so is
incapable of judging whether they are useful or useless, right or
wrong, good or evil. He knows only that other people use them so they
"must" be useful. Kind of like everyone drives a car in the USA, or
everyone uses Microsoft Windows, so they "must" be good.
In this case, he uses the WORD sharing but he actually MEANS
anti-sharing. Specifically, he means sharing at the META-level and
ANTI-sharing on the level. The objects in the wiki (the paragraphs)
are kept strictly segregated while their structure and information
content is replicated by acts of human will at the meta-level of human
actions. The ONLY sharing that ever goes on is due to CONTINUOUS and
DELIBERATE EFFORT by human beings. Such a system can hardly be said to
promote or facilitate sharing, for all of Ward's claims.
The fact that Ward calls "sharing" what is in fact anti-sharing should
ring alarm bells in the minds of anyone who values sharing. And also
in the minds of anyone who values logical consistency, integrity,
comprehension, understanding, expertise, and many other things
besides. As far as I'm concerned, Ward is a clueless idiot.
Regarding your other suggestion Vincent, that's not very helpful. I
already said that I have other priorities. As just a small example, I
know how to eradicate child abuse from the face of the Earth for all
eternity. It can be done on a budget of 100 million euro. Do you have
that amount of money? Will you tell me that I should "just do it
myself"?
And do you know why I don't bother with that project? It's because
it's just one of many projects floating in my head, and by no means
the most important one. So where do you think "instilling post-feudal
social relations in collaborative media" fits into the greater scheme
of things when "eradicating child abuse for all eternity" is small
potatoes? It's baby potatoes.
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