10 Dec
2014
10 Dec
'14
2 a.m.
I have say, upgrading makes me very nervous too..so, I'd definitely vote for anything
that changes or enhances that process. So far, I'm terrified to even try an upgrade
(currently on 5.4) since my wiki is production and we've done a fair bit of customized
solutions to unique problems (likely not in a "supported" way maybe) . My fear
is that some piece of code or settings will get overwritten which will break stuff and I
won't know where to look to fix them. 😃
A wizard would be awesome to take the guess work out of it. As is, I've read some of
the tutorials out there regarding upgrades several times but I'm not really able to
determine the prescribed steps using those.
I think at the end of the day I'm going to end up exporting my solutions as XAR's
and then try importing them into an upgraded Xwiki environment too, since it seems easier
to me.
On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET
<jeremie.bousquet(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Le 9 déc. 2014 22:37, "Thomas Mortagne" <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> a
écrit
:
that
Distribution Wizard has been introduced in 4.2 so not really the
latest version. And even before that export/import everything never
really been standard upgrade process either.
Sure, but you usually did reverse way : import new xwiki ui xar (and
remember to uncheck standard pages customized, or have them overwritten).
And yes, it was sometimes a hassle, and compared to that distribution
wizard is really really great :)
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On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Mortagne <
thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Harald Ommang <harald.ommang(a)verico.com
>> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> In one way, I very much appreciate the relatively high frequency of
>> updates done by the XWIKI crew. You are doing a great job, making sure
>> XWIKI is alive and kicking and always
improving.
>>>
>>> The downside to this, is all the work needed to be done when
upgrading.
>> So, I don't do that very often. The
basic part of
installation/migration
>> works very well, but when it comes to
content, the upgrade procedure is
>> messy, as I see it. It is a hassle to have to pick and choose between
>> various parts when importing and exported XAR.
>>>
>>> I would very much suggest planning for a future where the parts that
are
>> XWIKI software are clearly separated from
the parts where customers
>> typically do modifications. Especially items like users and groups. It
>> should be possible to have a more separated export/import so that you
GET
>> new versions of e.g. the admin pages,
while still KEEPING your setup of
>> users, groups, etc., without having to click on a million of
checkboxes in
the import.
I don't really understand this comment, doing export/import is really
not the standard way of doing an upgrade. In typical upgrade you
backup everything if you want to be safe (or better you have automated
backups and you don't really need to do it when you upgrade), upgrade
the WAR part (if you use the Debian package then it's just about doing
apt-get upgrade or install with a specific version), restart, XWiki
upgrade the database shema automatically if needed and then you get
the Distribution Wizard which download and upgrade the wiki pages with
3 ways merge. Most of the time you don't have anything to do.
Sure, but to benefit from all those nice Distribution Wizard features,
Harald would first need to... upgrade to the latest version ;-)
Guillaume
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