14 Jul
2007
14 Jul
'07
11:49 p.m.
True, true, true. I'm not arguing at all, just trying to point out that we
speak about different things. Something must be wrong with my ability to
explain.
Let me try again, this time with scenario.
Lets say I've installed Xwiki 1.0. I also made a change or two to Albatross
skin. Some time later you and XWiki team releases XWiki 1.5 that I want to
upgrade to. Lets say there are 20 fixes/improvements in Albatross between
these two versions.
I see two ways to perform the upgrade:
1. Install 1.5
2a. Copy modified Albatross skin from 1.0
3a. Go to subversion, diff the 1.0 and 1.5 versions
4a. Identify those 20 changes and apply them to Albatross skin.
Alternative scenario is
1. Install 1.5
2b. Identify local changes made in Albatross 1.0
3b. Apply those changes to Albatross 1.5
For "b" way the life for me would be much easier if I tracked all the local
customizations. That would eliminate the [most painful] step 2b.
So my advice was to keep track of local changes thus saving efforts for "b"
way. The advice addressed to XWiki users, not developers of course. And it
is not supposed to mean any problems with XWiki itself.
It is not even about XWiki, it is about maintaining any software one is not
in control of.
On 7/14/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Jul 13, 2007, at 11:38 PM, Pavel wrote:
Vincent,
I was talking about deployment-specific modifications that one can make to
skin, config, etc.
On developer side I'm pretty sure your VCS is capable of tracking changes
=).
Everything is in the SCM, including skin, configs, etc.
Now if you're not interested in details, we have the release notes which
point out the important items. It's possible (and probable) we miss things
from time to time so don't hesitate to tell us/help us improve them.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 7/13/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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Best regards,
Pavel
Hi Pavel,
On Jul 13, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Pavel wrote:
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Best regards,
Pavel
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I'm not Xwiki developer and cannot answer
directly your question,
but based
on my own experience the following would be a good idea:
Somehow record all changes that you make to skins, config, other
static
resources.
While there are certain means to migrate db content to newer Xwiki
versions,
other changes are up to you.
Having a list of those may save you lots of your time. At leas you
will know
what and where to reapply.
We do all this already... :)
It's either available in our release notes or directly at the source
in our SVN repository which you can browse and query here:
http://fisheye.xwiki.org. For example you can give it a date range
(between 2 releases and it'll tell you all that have changed).
Thanks
-Vincent
-----Original Message-----
From: wangwh(a)att.net [mailto:wangwh@att.net]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:51 AM
To: xwiki-users(a)objectweb.org
Subject: [xwiki-users] XWiki upgrades path?
Hi, XWiki team,
It seems to me that upgrading the XWiki version on XWiki farm is
very hard
to do since it is not done for quite some time. Is this an
indicator that
maintaining an XWiki server with live sites is not easy?
Is there a path for site managers to move up to the next version
XWiki? Or,
is there a way for users to get to the new version or get around the
problems of the old version? Not everyday everyone is starting from
a clean
new version, everyone has to face the upgrading time. If XWiki
farm sites
have to stay in old, old version, I guess moving up is really
difficult. It
does not look good to potential new users.
Thanks for thinking about this issue.
Wei-hsing
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