12 Oct
2015
12 Oct
'15
2:46 p.m.
"remember that Panels, for instances, have their own documents in which they are
located (see https://yoursite.com:port/xwiki/bin/view/Panels/"
I did not know that.
"2) (easiest/quickest solution, no coding) "To fix this, you could recreate the
previously deleted user and make sure he has the 'script' right.". This way
no further action should be needed on the problematic documents since they will simply
start working since their last content author is now a valid user again."
I just tried this and it fix most of the problems (panels are working) and the
localization issues are fixed on most pages.
"(easy but requires minimal coding) Write a quick and small script that searches for
all documents having the deleted user as content author and resaves them with the
Administrator user as last content author, so that the scripts start working,
or..."
In what language? Velocity? I don't know where to start with that - I'll probably
just not delete users until that issue is resolved.
Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
-----Original Message-----
From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Eduard Moraru
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 6:29 AM
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script Errors
Hello again, Keith.
Please see point 2) in my first answer to you (
http://markmail.org/message/kiq665kkscfvag43 ) and please offer us the information Vincent
requested at his point 2) (in the reply above) about the last author ("Last modified
by XXXXXX") of one of the documents that is failing to execute the velocity macro.
Also, remember that Panels, for instances, have their own documents in which they are
located (see https://yoursite.com:port/xwiki/bin/view/Panels/
and pick some that work and some that don`t work, so that we can spot the difference), so
you have to show the last author of *that* document and not of a document where the panel
is used (like in the picture you`ve recently provided
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D679848_06124469_052955 ).
Also, regarding your posted picture, you can see there that the last author of that
document (of Main.WebHome) is "Administrator" so most likely scripts will work
there, as you`ve previously confirmed that the Administrator account you are using has
programming rights. You now need to check the pages that don`t work, as mentioned by
Vincent (and myself).
If indeed this is the issue (and most likely it is, since you`ve mentioned there was a
user which is now deleted that did the administrative work in the past), you have 2
options:
1) (easy but requires minimal coding) Write a quick and small script that searches for all
documents having the deleted user as content author and resaves them with the
Administrator user as last content author, so that the scripts start working, or...
2) (easiest/quickest solution, no coding) "To fix this, you could recreate the
previously deleted user and make sure he has the 'script' right.". This way
no further action should be needed on the problematic documents since they will simply
start working since their last content author is now a valid user again.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:08 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
Hi Keith,
On 11 Oct 2015 at 15:05:21, Keith Davis (keithdavis(a)pridedallas.com
(mailto:keithdavis@pridedallas.com)) wrote:
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" You could save the concerned pages with a
user having Script
permissions (you could script this if there are plenty of pages)."
I still think we are not on the same page - this is for almost every
script, including all the "panel" scripts (Recent Modifications,
etc...).
These panels are used on every single page and I've tried saving pages
to fix this, but it does not work. Strange, there is one that is
working, Orphaned Pages.
Remember I was just replying to your **specific** question:
"I installed Xwiki originally, but a user that is no longer here (and
the user has been deleted) has done most of the upgrades for some
time. Is it possible that because his account is missing, there are no
rights to these scripts?”
And my answer was yes and that the solution for this was to resave the
pages he has last modified and that contained some script.
Now regarding your problem, I haven’t been following this thread
closely but it should be very easy to diagnose:
1) What error do you get when you click on the error in a panel?
2) If the error is about Script rights, then, when you navigate to the
panel page and check the last author who is it? Is that author
existing in your wiki and does it have script rights?
Thanks
-Vincent
Here is a screenshot:
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D679848_06124469_052955
How do I re-save these? Also, I can't update or add / remove
extensions
because of this issue. Really, the whole system is unusable in this state.
Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Massol [mailto:vmassol@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
vincent(a)massol.net
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 6:32 AM
To: XWiki Users; Keith Davis
Subject: RE: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script Errors
On 10 Oct 2015 at 21:24:32, Keith Davis (keithdavis(a)pridedallas.com
(mailto:keithdavis@pridedallas.com)) wrote:
> And what about the "localization" errors?
>
> Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Keith
> Davis
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:11 PM
> To: vincent(a)massol.net
> Cc: XWiki Users
> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script Errors
>
> But what do I do to fix this issue now or are we stuck on 7.1.2
> until
this is fixed?
You could save the concerned pages with a user having Script
permissions
(you could script this if there are plenty of pages).
Re localization error, maybe they’re executed inside velocity
scripts
too and these pages also need to be saved by a user with script rights.
Thanks
-Vincent
>
> Keith Davis - (214) 906-5183 -
> http://pridedallas.com
>
> On Oct 10, 2015, at 11:35 AM, "vincent(a)massol.net" > wrote:
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> On 10 Oct 2015 at 15:31:29, Keith Davis
> (keithdavis(a)pridedallas.com
(mailto:keithdavis@pridedallas.com)) wrote:
>
> > Created a new page with just this content:
> >
> > {{velocity}}
> > Your username is $xcontext.getUser(), welcome to the site.
> > {{/velocity}}
> >
> > That works:
> >
> > "Your username is XWiki.Admin, welcome to the site."
> >
> > I installed Xwiki originally, but a user that is no longer here
> > (and
the user has been deleted) has done most of the upgrades for some
time. Is it possible that because his account is missing, there are no
rights to these scripts?
>
> Indeed, that’s a possibility and what Edy was suggesting, see
> http://markmail.org/message/et34vg63fuul33xc
>
> I’ve also created http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12676 to
remember to handle this.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Keith
> > Davis
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:29 AM
> > To: XWiki Users
> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script Errors
> >
> > " Missing xwiki-platform-localization-(script/api/etc.)-7.2.jar
files in your webapps/xwiki/WEB-INF/lib installation folder (maybe due
to an improper war upgrade [3]?)"
> >
> > I have 7 of these in the lib folder.
> >
> > " Missing 'admin.xwiki.installedextensions' translation, but
> > that is
unlikely since it is located in ApplicationResources.properties which
is located in xwiki-platform-oldcore-7.2.jar in your WEB-INF/lib
folder, without which your wiki would not be running."
> >
> > I have these 2, but no "xwiki-platform-oldcore-7.2.jar" file.
> >
> > xwiki-platform-legacy-oldcore-7.2.jar
> > xwiki-platform-filter-instance-oldcore-7.2.jar
> >
> > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Keith
> > Davis
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:24 AM
> > To: XWiki Users
> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script Errors
> >
> > Ran the DW as the admin user, still getting these:
> >
> > Failed to register the wiki component located in the document
> > [Home AppWithinMinutes » ApplicationsPanelEntry]: WikiComponentException:
> > Registering UI extensions at wiki level requires wiki
> > administration rights Failed to register the wiki
> >
> > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Keith
> > Davis
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:14 AM
> > To: XWiki Users
> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script Errors
> >
> > This is so broken. Even when I go to Edit a page, the Title
> > shows
this:
> >
> > $msg.get("xe.home.title")
> >
> > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Keith
> > Davis
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:12 AM
> > To: XWiki Users
> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script Errors
> >
> > I tried logging in as admin and doing the Distribution Wizard,
> > but
now it won't come up. Is there a way to force that?
> >
> > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vincent Massol [mailto:vmassol@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> > vincent(a)massol.net
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:06 AM
> > To: XWiki Users
> > Cc: Keith Davis
> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script Errors
> >
> >
> > On 10 Oct 2015 at 14:47:10, vincent(a)massol.net
> > (vincent(a)massol.net
(mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
> >
> > > On 10 Oct 2015 at 14:41:01, Keith Davis (
keithdavis@pridedallas.com(mailto:keithdavis@pridedallas.com)) wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Also, is your user account able to execute scripts? Have
> > > > you
tried creating a new page with a simple script to test that?"
> > > >
> > > > How do I do that? Is there a simple script that I can use? I
have not written any velocity scripts on my own?
> > >
> > > Maybe this can help:
> > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Script+Ma
> > > cro#
> > > HR
> > > ig
> > > hts
> >
> > See also
> > http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/Scripting#HPer
> > miss
> > io
> > ns
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Vincent
> > >
> > > > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
> > > > Keith Davis
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 7:36 AM
> > > > To: XWiki Users
> > > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script
> > > > Errors
> > > >
> > > > Scrolling through that list, I found a bunch more of those
> > > > same
errors. Why does it not think I am an administrator?
> > > >
> > > > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
> > > > Keith Davis
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 7:35 AM
> > > > To: XWiki Users
> > > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script
> > > > Errors
> > > >
> > > > I finally got a chance to work on this today. I switched
> > > > back to
XWiki 7.2 and I got the Distribution Wizard interface telling me that
the
7.1.2 UI is invalid and to upgrade (again). Is that supposed to
happen? I never did anything to "downgrade" the UI.
> > > >
> > > > This time, I noticed that I get these errors:
> > > >
> > > > Failed to register the wiki component located in the
> > > > document [Home » AppWithinMinutes » ApplicationsPanelEntry]:
> > > > WikiComponentException: Registering UI extensions at wiki
> > > > level requires wiki administration rights Failed to register
> > > > the wiki component located in the document [Home » Stats »
> > > > ApplicationsPanelEntry]: WikiComponentException: Registering
> > > > UI extensions at wiki level requires wiki administration
> > > > rights Failed to register the wiki component located in the
> > > > document [Home » Scheduler » ApplicationsPanelEntry]:
WikiComponentException:
> > > > Registering UI extensions at
wiki level requires wiki
> > > > administration rights Failed to register the wiki component
> > > > located in the document [Home » XWiki »
UserDirectoryApplicationsPanelEntry]:
> > > > WikiComponentException:
Registering UI extensions at wiki
> > > > level requires wiki administration rights Failed to register
> > > > the wiki component located in the document [Home » Blog »
> > > > ApplicationsPanelEntry]: WikiComponentException: Registering
> > > > UI extensions at wiki level requires wiki administration
> > > > rights Failed to register the wiki component located in the
> > > > document [Home » Panels » ApplicationsPanelEntry]:
WikiComponentException:
> > > > Registering UI extensions at wiki level requires wiki
> > > > administration rights
> > > >
> > > > I am an administrator - maybe this is the problem?
> > > >
> > > > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
> > > > Eduard Moraru
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 4:10 AM
> > > > To: XWiki Users
> > > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script
> > > > Errors
> > > >
> > > > Keith, have you tried to create a new page with the source
> > > > [1]
of the content author checking app I mentioned above?
> > > >
> > > > Also, is your user account able to execute scripts? Have you
tried creating a new page with a simple script to test that?
> > > >
> > > > If your user can not execute the scripts he writes, then you
could try enabling the superadmin [2] account and log in with that one
in order to create the content author checking app page (with the
mentioned source code).
> > > >
> > > > We are at a debugging step here, since we can not reproduce
> > > > what
you describe, from the information you are giving us. I ran an upgrade
of a clean 7.1.2 instance to a 7.2 version, through the Distribution
Wizard without issues, so my conclusion is that there is a problem
with your particular instance's state, probably due to some incomplete upgrade
steps.
> > > >
> > > > Since you are the only one with access to your instances, we
need more information of what is going on to find out what went wrong.
Alternatively, you could also re-attempt the upgrade and making sure
that, while resolving any conflicts during the Distribution Wizard's
upgrade step, you include/merge the changes coming from the 7.2
version of the conflicting documents.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Re things like "$services.localization.render..." there
> > > > could be
> > > > 2 causes
> > > > here:
> > > > 1) Missing
> > > > xwiki-platform-localization-(script/api/etc.)-7.2.jar
> > > > files in your webapps/xwiki/WEB-INF/lib installation folder
> > > > (maybe due to an improper war upgrade [3]?)
> > > > 2) Missing 'admin.xwiki.installedextensions' translation,
> > > > but
that is unlikely since it is located in
ApplicationResources.properties which is located in
xwiki-platform-oldcore-7.2.jar in your WEB-INF/lib folder, without which your wiki would
not be running.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps getting to the bottom of this.
> > > >
> > > > -Eduard
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > [1]
> > > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Check+C
> > > > onte
> > > > nt
> > > > +A
> > > > uthor#HSource
> > > > [2]
> > > > http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Security
> > > > #HSu
> > > > pe
> > > > ra
> > > > dminaccount [3]
> > > > http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Keith Davis
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe we are not talking about the same thing. None of the
> > > > > scripts work, that includes the panel scripts, like My
> > > > > Recent Modifications, Backlinks and Recently Modified. Are
> > > > > you saying that the last Author of the that page is Author
> > > > > of the panel scripts as well, though those are shown on
> > > > > every page??? We don't write or create any velocity
> > > > > scripts - we are only using
the ones that came with XWiki or installed via Extensions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, the extension managements pages are broken (I sent
> > > > > that in the first email that did not go through). Under
> > > > > Extension Manager, Add Extensions is listed, but is broken
> > > > > (I think, I'm back on
> > > > > 7.1.2 right now), but the other links all are like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > $services.localization.render
> > > > > ('admin.xwiki.installedextensions')
> > > > >
> > > > > Those definitely do no work.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
> > > > > Eduard Moraru
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:18 AM
> > > > > To: XWiki Users
> > > > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script
> > > > > Errors
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Keith,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Keith Davis
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Is there any chance that, while you`ve executed the
> > > > > > Distribution Wizard, you might have missed (ignored) the
> > > > > > document
> > > > > XWiki.XWikiPreferences "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suppose - those boxes were not checked, but I checked
> > > > > > those boxes manually and it still did not work.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So you are saying that you`ve set the rights of the
> > > > > XWikiAllGroup as in the screenshot and you still have issues.
> > > > > Have you tried isolating the problem in a new page? Like
> > > > > creating a new page, writing/adding a velocity macro
> > > > > (event with some static text content, it does not
> > > > > matter) and then saving the page to see if it is executed
properly and that you get no error?
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I figure out what user is the author? How do I
> > > > > change the author of
> > > > > > a script?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The last author of a script is the same thing as the last
> > > > > content author of the document in which the script is located.
> > > > > If you have problems with the scripts inside Main.Welcome
> > > > > (for example), you look at its "Last modified by"
label,
> > > > > under the page title. That will tell you the user that
> > > > > last modified the page. The gotcha here is that the script
> > > > > right (just like the programming right) actually checks
> > > > > the last content author of that page, so the last user
> > > > > that changed the page's content (not the last user that
> > > > > added a comment for example, for that
saved the page without changes, etc.).
> > > > >
> > > > > To make it easier, I`ve published this small app [1] that
> > > > > you can install with the Extension Manager and check the
> > > > > content author and the status of Programming and Script
> > > > > rights on a
particular page.
> > > > >
> > > > > You need to identify who is the "content author" on
the
> > > > > documents that contain scripts and that fail to work on
> > > > > your
setup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > Eduard
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > [1]
> > > > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Check
> > > > > +Con
> > > > > te
> > > > > nt
> > > > > +Aut
> > > > > hor
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, this is almost every velocity script.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf
> > > > > > Of Eduard Moraru
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 7:33 AM
> > > > > > To: XWiki Users
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script
> > > > > > Errors
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Keith,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I see 2 possibilities here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Is there any chance that, while you`ve executed the
> > > > > > Distribution Wizard, you might have missed (ignored) the
> > > > > > document XWiki.XWikiPreferences? Or maybe you`ve chosen
> > > > > > to
keep all your changes?
> > > > > > The point is that
you rights configuration (specifically
> > > > > > the
'script'
> > > > > > right
> > > > > > section) for the XWikiAllGroup in Administration should
> > > > > > look like in this screenshot [1] (from the 7.2 release
> > > > > > notes
[2]). The 'script'
> > > > > > right is explicitly
given to all users so that the
> > > > > > migration/upgrade behaves as before, until you decide
otherwise.
> > > > > > Please check that
the rights setup is properly upgraded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) The only other case I can think of is that you might
> > > > > > have deleted the user that is set as last content author
> > > > > > in (most
> > > > > > of) your documents. If this is the case, then indeed the
> > > > > > scripts will not be able to be executed since the user
> > > > > > no longer exists (and thus can not
> > > > > own the 'script' right).
> > > > > > To fix this, you could recreate the previously deleted
> > > > > > user and make sure he has the 'script' right.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let us know if that helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Eduard
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > [1]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/ReleaseNotes/Rel
> > > > > > ease
> > > > > > No
> > > > > > te sXWi ki
> > > > > > 72/scriptRightsExplicitlyAllowedInXWikiPreferences.png
> > > > > > [2]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Release
> > > > > > Note
> > > > > > sX
> > > > > > Wi
> > > > > > ki72
> > > > > > #H
> > > > > > Scriptright
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Keith Davis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, I did execute the Distribution Wizard.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Keith Davis (214) 906-5183
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Vincent Massol [mailto:vmassol@gmail.com] On
> > > > > > > Behalf Of vincent(a)massol.net
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 6:30 AM
> > > > > > > To: XWiki Users
> > > > > > > Cc: Keith Davis
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki 7.2 - Velocity Script
> > > > > > > Errors
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Keith,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See
> > > > > > >
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Relea
> > > > > > > seNo
> > > > > > > te
> > > > > > > sX
> > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > 72
> > > > > > > #H
> > > > > > > Scriptright
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are you sure you’ve executed the Distribution
Wizard?
> > > > > > > (because by default we give Script Rights to users).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > @Edy: I think we need some additional info in the
> > > > > > > Release Notes about
> > > > > > this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > -Vincent
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5 Oct 2015 at 13:25:08, Keith Davis
> > > > > > > (keithdavis(a)pridedallas.com> > > > >
> > m>
> > > > > > (mailto:
> > > > > > > keithdavis(a)pridedallas.com> > > > >
> > >))
> > > > > > > keithdavis(a)pridedallas.com))> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I tried to send this once, but it looks like it
did
> > > > > > > > not
go through.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just upgraded from 7.1.2 to 7.2 and now it
looks
> > > > > > > > like none of the
> > > > > > > Velocity scripts work. I ended up rolling back to
> > > > > > > 7.1.2, because it's unusable in this state.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
org.xwiki.rendering.macro.MacroExecutionException:
> > > > > > > > The execution of the
> > > > > > > [velocity] script macro is not allowed. Check the
> > > > > > > rights of its last author or the parameters if
it's
> > > > > > > rendered from
another script.
> > > > >
> > > > > [snip]
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