7 Nov
2014
7 Nov
'14
4 p.m.
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jean SIMARD <jean.simard(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
As far as I know, Mac can be either case sensitive or
case insensitive
(just
need to choose how you format your disk)*.
So we could do the same on XWiki and propose to choose between case
sensitive
and case insensitive at the installation (a variable in
xwiki.properties)? I'm
not against a case insentivity by default if I can switch it later.
Yes, indeed, but I would not call that "configurable", since it involves
formatting your drive and choosing a filesystem that supports case
sensitive/insensitive names.
* I have a Mac at home and mine is case sensitive but I configured it 2
years
ago. I don't know if, in the last 2 years, Apple decided to remove this
choice
between case sentivity and case insensitivity.
At least for recent Mac computers, they come with a case insensitive FS by
default. This options is also recommended in their documentation, for
example when erasing and reinstalling your OSX:
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH18869 (Yosemite) or
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243 (Mavericks), etc.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 12:03:14PM +0100, Guillaume
Lerouge wrote:
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Hi Edy,
thanks for your message. From a forward-looking standpoint, I 100% agree
with you that switching XWiki to case-insensitive would be a good thing
to
do. I've seen others (as well as myself) be
lost because they were going
to
.../xwiki/bin/view/Main/Xyy instead of
.../xwiki/bin/view/Main/XYY and
vice-versa. If we were to make the decision today, I can't see a good
reason why not to go case-insensitive, especially when targeting business
users.
However we're not starting from a blank slate. There might be (I don't
know
that there is, but there might be) legitimate use
cases for a page named
"Xyy" vs a page named "XYY", both in the same wiki. I'd like to
have a
better idea of the consequences of this change, as well an analysis of a
public site such as xwiki.org to see whether this could be causing
unforeseen and other unexpected issues. In other words: what could go
wrong?
Thanks,
Guillaume
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On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi users and devs,
>
> I would like to have your opinion on the topic of case sensitive vs
case
> insensitive and which one you prefer in
XWiki.
>
> Currently, XWiki is case sensitive. This means the same resource name
> (document name, space name, etc) can be written with either small
letters
> or big letters or a mix.
>
> Examples: You can have both "Main.Test" and "Main.test" as 2
different
> documents. Also, you can have "XWiki.Admin" and "XWiki.admin" as
2
> different users. This also applies to URLs, as "/Main/Test" is
different
> from "/Main/test" or
"/main/test", so all these 3 are different
resources.
>
> Even from this short description, one can already identify possible
> problems of this approach.
>
> From the top 3 operating systems (Linux, Mac an Windows), only Linux is
> case sensitive, the other two (more user-focused Operating Systems) are
> both case insensitive.
>
> Since XWiki has one of its main targets the Enterprise users, it is
safe to
> assume that the correct approach would be to
also be more user-focused
and
simplify
things and avoid confusions by being case insensitive as well.
Also, a quick search on existing issues validates the need for this
improvement:
http://jira.xwiki.org/issues/?jql=text%20~%20%22case%20insensitive%22
What do you think? Is it OK to keep XWiki case sensitive, or would you
prefer it case insensitive? Bring arguments.
I have also created a jira issue for this idea:
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11412 to track it in the future.
Thanks,
Eduard
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