RE: [xwiki-users] Dead on-topic (was: Slightly off-topic: Digital ID required by some mail)

Though I generally eschew "me-too" posts, I feel the need to pile on here, and partly because it's not just "me-too" but a bit of a more detailed approach. I am unable to open them, though it may just be a matter of configuration in my mail reader. I haven't been able to find out how it's done, though, and I'm beginning to suspect that it requires some plugin or other that I don't have - which I would gladly acquire if this weren't a fairly tightly-controlled standard corporate desktop machine. I think it's truly stupid of Outlook to refuse to open a message merely because it can't verify it (and maybe that's the trick- find the config option, if any, to tell it not to), particularly if it thinks that I can't because it can't find my own "digital ID" which is in no way required for verification, and I certainly wouldn't use it if I weren't required to. On the other hand, if the message is actually encrypted as well, then Brandon is absolutely correct that the messages can't be read except by those to whom it was specifically addressed, which likely includes none of us, but only the mail-list daemon. Fortunately it can store the message's plaintext so that it can be read in the archive and in the digests. If the sender (or anyone else) knows, and can tell us, how those of us with this particular affliction can read the messages (with the verification feature off, of course, so we can read it...!), I'd appreciate it, and that would satisfy me. And it certainly galls me to suggest, or hear suggested, that a very valuable feature should not be used because a significant number of people are trapped in a situation where they must use inferior products, thus forcing even those who don't use the monopoly product to do without the feature. Needless to say, I have been galled in this way a great deal during the last couple of decades, to see the strength of this argument grow stronger with the monopoly and in turn strengthen it, so that the predatory business practices that engendered it are almost not even needed to perpetuate it. So, if the message is indeed encrypted, please ignore the ranting in the previous two paragraphs and stop doing that if you want all of us who receive the mailing list directly to be able to read your messages; if it's not, any help on how to beat Microsoft Outlook into submission would be appreciated. brain[sic] -----Original Message----- From: Esbach, Brandon [mailto:Esbachb@tycoelectronics.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:20 AM To: xwiki-users(a)objectweb.org Subject: [xwiki-users] Slightly off-topic: Digital ID required by some mail Folks, a fair chunk of group emails the last few weeks have had digital id control. From looking over the last few weeks, these are the emails that are less likely to be responded to, as I suspect they are not readable except by a select few. I suspect the online archive is able to display these messages fine enough, but to be honest (I'm not sure if I'm alone here); unless I'm researching a problem before mailing the group, I don't really go looking there for new posts. Suggestion: If it's to a mailing group I would consider not using this method, to ensure whoever has a solution/suggestion can reply to you.