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 2014-12-10 9:46 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
> Hi Jason,
>
>
> On 10 Dec 2014 at 05:11:40, Jason Clemons (jason.clemons(a)live.com 
 (mailto:
 > jason.clemons(a)live.com)) wrote:
>
> > I have say, upgrading makes me very nervous too..
>
> Have you ever tried using the Distribution Wizard?
>
> > so, I'd definitely vote for anything that changes or enhances that
> process. So far, I'm terrified to even try an upgrade (currently on 
 5.4)
 > since my wiki is production and we've
done a fair bit of customized
> solutions to unique problems (likely not in a "supported" way maybe) .
>
> Well, first nobody should ever upgrade a wiki in production directly! 
 You
 > should make backups and do the upgrade on a
staging server and then 
 only
 > move the instance to production.
>
> > My fear is that some piece of code or settings will get overwritten
> which will break stuff and I won't know where to look to fix them. 😃
> >
> > A wizard would be awesome to take the guess work out of it.
>
> err… The Distribution Wizard …. is a... wizard ;)
>
> You should give it a try! We do have some ideas in jira to make it even
> better but it’s already quite good in its current state.
>
> > As is, I've read some of the tutorials out there regarding upgrades
> several times but I'm not really able to determine the prescribed steps
> using those.
>
> What tutorial? Could you give me the links?
>
> > I think at the end of the day I'm going to end up exporting my 
solutions
 > as XAR's and then try importing them into
an upgraded Xwiki environment
> too, since it seems easier to me.
>
> The DW is generally a better solution to upgrades.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET wrote:
> > >
> > > Le 9 déc. 2014 22:37, "Thomas Mortagne" a écrit
> > > :
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Guillaume Lerouge
> > > wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Mortagne <
> > > thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Harald Ommang > >>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In one way, I very much appreciate the relatively high
 frequency of
 > > >>>> updates done by the
XWIKI crew. You are doing a great job, 
 making
 > sure
> > > that
> > >>>> XWIKI is alive and kicking and always improving.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The downside to this, is all the work needed to be done
when
> > > upgrading.
> > >>>> So, I don't do that very often. The basic part of
> > > installation/migration
> > >>>> works very well, but when it comes to content, the upgrade
> procedure is
> > >>>> messy, as I see it. It is a hassle to have to pick and choose
> between
> > >>>> various parts when importing and exported XAR.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I would very much suggest planning for a future where the
parts
> that
> > > are
> > >>>> XWIKI software are clearly separated from the parts where
 customers
 > > >>>> typically do
modifications. Especially items like users and 
 groups.
 > It
> > >>>> should be possible to have a more separated export/import so
 that
 > you
> > > GET
> > >>>> new versions of e.g. the admin pages, while still KEEPING your
> setup of
> > >>>> users, groups, etc., without having to click on a million of
> > > checkboxes in
> > >>>> the import.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I don't really understand this comment, doing export/import
is
> really
> > >>>> not the standard way of doing an upgrade. In typical upgrade
you
> > >>>> backup everything if you want to be safe (or better you have
> automated
> > >>>> backups and you don't really need to do it when you
upgrade),
> upgrade
> > >>>> the WAR part (if you use the Debian package then it's just
about
> doing
> > >>>> apt-get upgrade or install with a specific version), restart,
 XWiki
 > > >>>> upgrade the database
shema automatically if needed and then you 
 get
 > > >>>> the Distribution Wizard
which download and upgrade the wiki 
 pages
 > with
> > >>>> 3 ways merge. Most of the time you don't have anything to
do.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sure, but to benefit from all those nice Distribution Wizard
> features,
> > >>> Harald would first need to... upgrade to the latest version ;-)
> > >>
> > >> Distribution Wizard has been introduced in 4.2 so not really the
> > >> latest version. And even before that export/import everything 
never
 > > >> really been standard upgrade
process either.
> > >
> > > Sure, but you usually did reverse way : import new xwiki ui xar 
 (and
 > > > remember to uncheck standard pages
customized, or have them
> overwritten).
> > > And yes, it was sometimes a hassle, and compared to that 
distribution
 > > > wizard is really really great :)
> > >
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Guillaume
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