Re: [xwiki-users] Extending XWiki collaboration toolset

Hello Eugen, Your points about Wave's codebase and APIs are valid. So is the abstraction analogy between XWiki and Wave. There is only one argument I can bring here: the UX of the Wave (in this particular case and because Wave is a specialized tool) is superior. However it's not the Wave I was trying to promote by this thread, it was just an example of advanced user interaction User-to-User and User-to-Wiki: advanced documents editing for most popular types of documents (text, spreadsheet, and presentation). I understand the complexity of this task (it took 20 years for Microsoft to build their MS Office), but the question is: I often consider whether to upload a MS Office file as an attachment or maintain the file's content as an XWiki page - and sooner or later someone will come up with such solution ( Open-source wiki + Open-Source Google Docs :) ). So it's not about writing some missing extension - it's about taking XWiki to the next level in terms of content editing. Roman -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces(a)xwiki.org [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Colesnicov Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 20:46 PM To: users(a)xwiki.org Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Extending XWiki collaboration toolset Hi! I am not a developer of XWiki, but I am using XWiki 2 years and your questions are closed to me. 1. Wave is a new project (as a apache open-source project). It is started as a Google Wave, after Google "forgot it" and Wave migrated to the apache incubator. As I know for now - Wave as a independent open-source project didn't realise yet in production - for this reason, developers of other platforms right now cannot be sure exactly of future API, future functionality and other things of Wave ... Discuss about integration with it can be started after Wave will be released in a production. 2. XWiki is not only a final user-product "from the box" - is a "base" of your possible product (application). And regarding to "collaboration" XWiki can give to users more and more. For example, as a small comparison with Google Wave: - In XWiki you can add "pages" - same in Wave you can add "waves" - In XWiki you can write any comments to this page and comments to the comments (tree organized). - In XWiki you can sent messages inside XWiki - In XWiki you can attach any files to this page and you can organize view content of this files using officeviewer macro, also existing pictire viewing and charts drawing ... - In XWiki you can add tasks to this page (exist special macro) - In XWiki you can connect this page to other pages (wiki, documentation, etc) - In XWiki you can construct personal dashboards and gadgets - Also existing light calculations. If you need more calculations - you can write own macro ... What else exists in Google Wave and don't exists in XWiki? I don't know ... (maybe another idea of interface). XWiki give you more - because you can add additional macros, add additional functionality (for example blogs, forums, etc). For this reason, I think, that XWiki is enought for colaboration. Difference from Google Wave - that you need to "construct" in XWiki you own "application". You can see examples of such applications: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Chronopolys -- Best regards Eugen Colesnicov -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Extending-XWiki-collaboration-toolset-tp6… Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users