Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page

Let's see what variants we have: 1. Instead of displaying "Title", display the "Name" instead. This won't solve anything. There is no difference between Page Name and Page Title for the normal users. Seeing "Name" instead of "Title", will not stop the users to enter spaces if they want, so the URL will still have those spaces. We don't force the Page Names to trim spaces. One quick solution here is indeed to use "URL" label instead of "Name". For the reasons Vincent mentioned this might not end up in the product for now, so you will need to do some custom development (changing some translations) to have this change. If you want to be "hackish" you can even change the translation for "Title" to "URL" instead and hope that your users will enter shorter URLs (since we generate the name from the title). Displaying just Name / URL, means users will still have to go and change the title manually. The only way to cut a step in the flow is to autogenerate the page names (which we currently do). But for your use case you shoyld write a shorting/trimming algorithm, but this is custom, since you mentioned you want just the initials and no spaces, etc. 2. Displaying both "Title" and "Name". This will create confusion and need for explanations. That's why we display these options just for advanced and long-time users of XWiki, since they are used to the concepts. ----- IMO what you are describing is advanced user behavior. Normal users don't generally care about their URLs and SEO. But the beauty of XWiki is that you can customize it locally to perfectly match your needs. Vincent mentioned something about AWM. I don't see much difference from the Create Page. We generate the names from title here too. We display them in the breadcrumb, but in a more simple way. Displaying the "localhost"/server part is not simple user behavior. AWM is more complex. ----- So I would not change anything on the product side, since I believe these should be solved as custom changes for your instance. We want to encourage users to use page titles (with spaces in them since they are more readable and supported), while we are preserving the page name behavior for advances users (but we don't enforce it). If users made mistakes they can always change the title or rename the page. On the product side the only change I would like us to do is using the URL naming, but this was debated in the past and dropped for Vincent's reasons. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: