15 Oct
2013
15 Oct
'13
8:28 a.m.
On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:30 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
As Marius and I mentioned on this thread we don't like the stackoverflow policy for
answering questions. So for me it's a no go. I wouldn't even be able to reply to
any question about XWiki anymore… (I'm not allowed to). So it would mean that someone
external to the XWiki project would be telling me (a committer on the XWiki project) that
I can't answer questions about XWiki… How nice is that? :)
+ I don't think it's a good idea to give them all our data. Is there a way to
export all the data from SO?
+ I think markmail provides a nicer way to search for users.
Thanks
-Vincent
PS: Just tried again to post an answer for
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18394365/how-do-i-check-for-documents-wi…
to verify if I was still banned. If someone can post this answer that would be great
because I can't… :( It says: "We are no longer accepting answers from this
account. See the Help Center to learn more". And if you go to
http://stackoverflow.com/help/answer-bans you'll see that "The ban will be lifted
automatically by the system when it determines that your positive contributions outweigh
those answers which were poorly received. " but since I cannot answer questions...
My answer to that question:
"
You can use the following XWQL query which will list all documents having tags
"tag1" and "tag2":
{{velocity}}
$services.query.xwql("from doc.object(XWiki.TagClass) as tag where
'tag1' member of tag.tags and 'tag2' member of tag.tags").execute()
{{/velocity}}
For more information on how to use XWQL see the reference documentation at
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Query+Module
"
Thanks
-Vincent
On Oct 14, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com> wrote:
more
Another suggestion:
E) Use the "xwiki" tag in generic stackoverflow questions?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/xwiki
Do we really need that much bells and whistles and control? Of course,
nothing stops us from trying area51 in parallel, but I don`t see that as a
must.
Most of the answers I find are on stackoverflow and not on its sub-sites
and are generally well tagged. Plus, Google is usually in charge of finding
the answers, but navigating with SO's internal tags is good enough as well.
WDYT? On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
On Oct 10, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Hamster <teunham(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> vmassol wrote
>> Can you explain what you mean exactly? :)
>
> Why don't "we" open a "XWiki Site" and start posting all our
questions
> there?
>
> Nothing ventured, nothing gained…
Because as it's mentioned, it's not easy. People will vote in Area51 and
only the most requested will be open.
Yes, but sleeping in a burrow does not improve our chances of getting visibility of the project, does it? Neither does
creating our own new
underground establishment. If we plan on moving or doing anything in this
direction, maybe the "forest" is where the action happens :)
I see 3 main reasons to move away from a mailing list for the users list:
1) Make it extra easy for users to post a question without being registered
2) Provide visibility for those who answer questions (i.e. earn points and
rankings) and as a consequence especially who are the experts
3) Allow closing topics to know which one do not have a satisfactory
answer so that people who wish to help know which threads they can help on
IMO those are our main 3 use cases.
Then we can evaluate the options we have to fill those use cases:
A) Try to get a site on area51
B) Install a stackoverflow clone in our infrastructure (see
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2267/stack-overflow-clones)
C) Develop a solution based on XWiki
D) Other
Thanks,
Eduard
>
> I don't like A) because the chances to get it is about 0.1% and even more
> important I strongly dislike the way they manage stackoverflow (I'm not
> able to provide answers to questions because at one point in the past I
> answered a question by sending a user to a URL that gave the exact answer
> to his question)… As a result this prevented me about 4-5 times from
> answering a question for which I knew the answer… There's also the question
> of not owning our own data.
>
> C) is a lot of work but it could be possible because Jeremie is working on
> a use case relatively close to it. And the "eat our dog food" is quite
nice
> and we can learn stuff in the process. XWiki fits nicely with the use case
> of a "Q&A site" IMO. It should be relatively easy to start with a
simple QA
> app and progressively enhance it.
>
> The "easiest" is probably B). For fun I'm trying
> http://bitnami.com/stack/osqa locally.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent