Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons

Hi, On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xwiki(a)crw.xyz> wrote: This is very interesting behavior. I would love to be able to have some usage stats, but with XWiki being installable and independently hosted, stats are always hard to get by. Personally I use "Save" a lot (I like to save often in order to not lose stuff), but I usually use the keyboard shortcut, not necessarily the button. It is true that 'Preview' in WYSIWYG has its usages, especially when using macros or nested macros, since the result is not accurate. Regarding "Save & View" I always do it as a final step, while I never use "Cancel" - i just navigate away or hit the browser's 'Back'. Also in terms of functionality the "Autosave" can be used instead of the "Save", so we can remove 'Save' (especially in case of advanced users). So the only stats I have are from the http://playground.xwiki.org from the past 2 months. These are the top 3 pages edited, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/UsageFe… Now let's see the heatmaps: - Sandbox.WebHome: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox… - Sandbox.TestPage1: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox… - Sandbox.Test.WebHome: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox… "Save&View", with no usage for "Save & Continue" and "Cancel". Not we need to take into account 2 aspects: Sandbox is used by first-time users of XWiki and they usually are afraid to mess things up so the Preview is comforting for them. Also in the current layout 'Preview' is the first button from left-to-right, so it's assumed as the primary action. So if the initial proposal was 'varA', what do you think about 'varB'? - var A [Save; Save & View]: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/varA.png - var B [Save & View; Preview]: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/varB.png - var C [Save & View; Save]: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/varC.png Note: users that went to 'Preview', usually come back to the previous view, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox… I left 'Cancel' at the end, in order to be the last button and have visibility (not get lost in all the other options). Users need to use it as an 'escape' route, so it's better to find it fast and always have a static position = last. For this usually the first and last positions are best. My initial rationale to remove 'Preview' from the WYSIWYG editor was that WYSIWYG does life preview, so I though not many users use it, since I never used it. Seeing the stats for newcomers is impressive, still it would be great if more advanced / long-term users of XWiki would summaries a bit their button usage, so we could take a more informed decision. XWiki needs to accommodate both newcomers, but also long term users. Thanks, Caty