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[mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
Mark_Marziale(a)BCBSIL.COM
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:21 AM
To: XWiki Users
Cc: XWiki Users; users-bounces(a)xwiki.org
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] problem with FAQ tutorial .. space
assignment?
Hi Vincent,
One point I want to check out with you. The part of the
tutorial under the heading 'Create a homepage for your
application' is a little unclear to me. I was told the FAQ
was written during an earlier version of xwiki when a Space
was called a Web.
I want to clarify that WebHome is, out of the box, the default page
of every space, not just FAQ. The default space page can be changed
in xwiki.cfg. It wasn't renamed in the default xwiki.cfg to
SpaceHome when Webs became Spaces, probably due to backwards
compatibility reasons, but I don't know for sure.
Yes it wasn't renamed for that reason. We have a jira issue to make
its name configurable but it's not right now.
Thanks
-Vincent
> In latter attempts to follow the tutorial
> I've interpreted 'Go to the "FAQ.WebHome" page' as:
> Go to the Wiki Dashboard (in my setup
>
http://localhost/xwiki/bin/view/Main/)
> click on the unresolved link in the FAQ space edit the
> resulting page at
http://localhost/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/
>
> I've been told the url
http://localhost/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/
> is equivalent to
http://localhost/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/WebHome/
> but I'm a little shaky on that point.
>
> Since the code on this page actually creates the new FAQ
> entries, and FAQ entries are definitely being created (though
> not in the FAQ space), I've been thinking this confusion
> isn't critical to creating entries in the right space. Is that wrong?
>
> ---
>
> For completeness, here's the FAQSheet code:
> {{velocity}}
> ## You can modify this page to customize the presentation of
> your object.
> ## At first you should keep the default presentation and just
> save the document.
> = Document $doc.name =
>
> #set($class = $doc.getObject('FAQ.FAQClass').xWikiClass)
>
> #foreach($prop in $class.properties)
> ; $prop.prettyName
> : $doc.display($prop.getName())
> #end
> {{/velocity}}
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> BCBS-IL
> ph 312-653-4293
> mark_marziale(a)bcbsil.com
>
>
>
>
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> Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
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> On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Mark_Marziale(a)BCBSIL.COM wrote:
>
>> Hi Vincent,
>>
>> Thanks again for your help.
>>
>> As far as the code goes, I did change the default space for the
>> FAQClass
>> to FAQ just as the tutorial stated. The code is earlier in
> this email
>> trail:
>>
>>>>> #set($defaultParent = 'FAQ.WebHome')
>>>>> #set($defaultSpace = 'FAQ')
>
> Ok I hadn't checked the code you sent. It looks ok. I don't see the
> FAQSheet code though.
>
> Anyway let us know how your 3rd try goes.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>
>> I'm doing this all again from scratch. Maybe 3rd time is a charm.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>> BCBS-IL
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>> mark_marziale(a)bcbsil.com
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>> Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
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>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Mark_Marziale(a)BCBSIL.COM wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vincent,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. My
>>> difficulty is
>>> in finding what it is I'm doing wrong. I'll review the steps again,
>>> this
>>> time paying special attention to the points you raised.
>>>
>>> It'd help if you could expand on " .. or have set up some different
>>> configuration for the default wiki syntax for new pages".
> I installed
>>> xwiki from scratch, then pulled in xwiki-enterprise-wiki-2.0.xar,
>>> then
>>> started typing in the faq example. If that somehow affected the
>>> configuration for default wiki syntax, I'm not aware how.
>>
>> If you haven't touched the default config then all new pages are
>> created in XWiki Syntax 2.0 by default, which is fine and
> matches the
>> FAQ tutorial expectations.
>>
>> In
>>
>
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/FAQTutorial#
> HCreatetheFAQClass
>
>>
>> , there's a step where you'll see:
>> #set($defaultSpace = 'Main')
>>
>> As described, replace "Main" with the space where you want
> the docs to
>> be created, for ex: "FAQ".
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>> Point noted on user contributed code.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> BCBS-IL
>>> ph 312-653-4293
>>> mark_marziale(a)bcbsil.com
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>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Mark_Marziale(a)BCBSIL.COM wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your reply and interest.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I haven't been able to figure out what the heck
I'm
>>>> doing
>>>> wrong in this relatively simple case. Beginning to look at
>>>> alternative
>>>> wikis.
>>>>
>>>> Definitely xwiki can be used to build 2.0 level of functionality,
>>>> but it
>>>> seems to me there's a little too much black box. I've tried
other
>>>> applications as well .. such as the task manager app .. and found
>>>> problems
>>>> others have found as well right out of the box. My point is it's
>>>> all a
>>>> little too vague for my comfort.
>>>
>>> One thing to note: this task manager app is not written
> nor supported
>>> by the XWiki dev team. It's been contributed by individuals and is
>>> supported by them or any contributor who wants to help.
> The quality
>>> of
>>> the code you find on
code.xwiki.org varies a lot. All we can
>>> guarantee
>>> here is the code that is developed by the XWiki dev team.
>>>
>>> In general if apps on
code.xwiki.org break it's because
> they haven't
>>> been updated at the same rate as the XWiki platform and in general
>>> it's really not much to make them work (a few minutes of work).
>>>
>>> The FAQ tutorial works well AFAIK. IMO you've probably
> forgotten some
>>> steps (in one step you must edit the default template to
> set in which
>>> space new FAQ documents are created - not that it matters,
> it'll work
>>> wherever they are created) or have set up some different
>>> configuration
>>> for the default wiki syntax for new pages.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>>> I haven't given up, just beginning to look elsewhere as well.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> BCBS-IL
>>>> ph 312-653-4293
>>>> mark_marziale(a)bcbsil.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh <disseminate(a)gmail.com>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the delayed response. I went through the steps
> of creating
>>>> the
>>>> FAQ application per the tutorial, but I can't reproduce
> your issue.
>>>> Questions are created in the FAQ space for me, not Main. Your code
>>>> looks
>>>> fine as well.
>>>>
>>>> Were you able to figure it out?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -Joshua-
>>>>
>>>> Mark_Marziale(a)BCBSIL.COM wrote:
>>>>> Hi Joshua,
>>>>>
>>>>> (I apologize to all if this appears more than once; I
> haven't been
>>>>> successful posting to the mailing list since before yesterday.
>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>> attachments are prohibited? Trying again without.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again, your explanation of spaces was very clear and
>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that I have a little better understanding of spaces, I'll
>>>>> present my
>>>>
>>>>> problem. For some reason when I create a FAQ entry, it's
> not going
>>>>> into
>>>>> the FAQ space but instead into the Main space. Per the
> tutorial, I
>>>> haven't
>>>>> created a FAQ space explicitly this go round.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to me this can only be happening as a result of the code
>>>>> that
>>>>> adds a FAQ, or perhaps in the class definition code
> which specifies
>>>>> the
>>>>> default space. Looks right to me and jibes with what you've said
>>>>> about
>>>>> spaces. Here it is yanked directly out of my code .. which was
>>>>> simply a
>>>>> copy/paste from the tutorial:
>>>>>
>>>>> FAQClass code:
>>>>> {{velocity}}
>>>>> ## Replace Main with the Space where you want your
> documents to be
>>>>> created.
>>>>> ## Replace the default parent with the one of your
> choice and save
>>>>> the
>>>>> document.
>>>>> ##
>>>>> #set($className = $doc.name.substring(0,
>>>>> $doc.name.indexOf("Class")))
>>>>> #set($defaultParent = 'FAQ.WebHome')
>>>>> #set($defaultSpace = 'FAQ')
>>>>> {{/velocity}}
>>>>>
>>>>> {{include document="XWiki.ClassSheet"/}}
>>>>>
>>>>> FAQTemplate code:
>>>>> {{include document="FAQ.FAQSheet"/}}
>>>>>
>>>>> FAQ WebHome code (
>>>>
http://localhost/xwiki/bin/edit/FAQ/WebHome?&editor=wiki
>>>>> ):
>>>>> = Existing FAQ entries =
>>>>>
>>>>> {{velocity}}
>>>>> #set($sql = ", BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName
and
>>>>> obj.className='FAQ.FAQClass' and
obj.name<>'FAQ.FAQTemplate'")
>>>>> #set($results = $xwiki.searchDocuments($sql))
>>>>> #if($results.empty)
>>>>> No FAQ has been created yet!
>>>>> #else
>>>>> #foreach ($item in $results)
>>>>> #set($faq = $xwiki.getDocument($item))
>>>>> *
[[${faq.display("question").replace("<p>",
"").replace("</p>",
>>>>> "")}>>${item}]]
>>>>> #end
>>>>> #end
>>>>> {{/velocity}}
>>>>>
>>>>> {{velocity}}
>>>>> #if("$!request.docName" != '')
>>>>> ## Request for creating a new instance
>>>>> #set($targetDocName =
"${request.spaceName}.${request.docName}")
>>>>> #set($targetDocName = $targetDocName.replace("?",
> "").replace("#",
>>>>> "").trim())
>>>>> #if(!$xwiki.exists($targetDocName) &&
> $xwiki.hasAccessLevel('edit',
>>>>> $context.user, $targetDocName))
>>>>> $response.sendRedirect($xwiki.getURL($targetDocName,
'inline',
>>>>>
"template=${request.template}&parent=${request.parent}"))
>>>>> ## Stop processing, since we already sent a redirect.
>>>>> #stop
>>>>> #end
>>>>> #end
>>>>>
>>>>> = Add a new question =
>>>>>
>>>>> #if("$!targetDocName" != '' &&
$xwiki.exists($targetDocName))
>>>>> {{warning}}The target document already exists. Please choose a
>>>> different
>>>>> name, or [[view the existing
> document>>$targetDocName]]{{/warning}}
>>>>> #elseif("$!targetDocName" != '')
>>>>> {{warning}}You don't have permission to create that
>>>> document{{/warning}}
>>>>> #end
>>>>>
>>>>> {{html}}
>>>>> <form action="" id="newdoc"
method="post">
>>>>> <div>
>>>>> <input type="hidden" name="parent"
value="${doc.fullName}"/>
>>>>> <input type="hidden" name="template"
value="FAQ.FAQTemplate"/>
>>>>> <input type="hidden" name="sheet"
value="1"/>
>>>>> <input type="hidden" name="spaceName"
value="FAQ"/>
>>>>> Document: <input type="text" name="docName"
value="Enter your
>>>>> question here" class="withTip"
size="50"/>
>>>>> <span class="buttonwrapper"><input
type="submit" value="Create
>>>> this
>>>>> FAQ" class="button"/></span>
>>>>> </div>
>>>>> </form>
>>>>> {{/html}}
>>>>> {{/velocity}}
>>>>>
>>>>> So what am I missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rieken, Joshua" <Joshua_Rieken(a)reyrey.com>
>>>>> Sent by: users-bounces(a)xwiki.org
>>>>> 11/10/2009 04:37 PM
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Re: [xwiki-users] problem with FAQ tutorial .. space assignment?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> You're very welcome. It's not necessary to explicitly create
the
>>>>> WebHome
>>>>
>>>>> in FAQ until later in the tutorial. Question/Answer
> documents that
>>>>> are
>>>>> created from the FAQ Class page will go into the FAQ space, which
>>>>> "comes
>>>>
>>>>> into existence" the instant any document is placed in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, if you add a question/answer page called
>>>>> "FAQ.Howtoeditapage", you can still get to it regardless
> of whether
>>>>> "FAQ.WebHome" exists.
>>>>>
>>>>> A space "disappears" when every document that is part of
> the space
>>>>> is
>>>>> deleted. So a space is just a collection of documents and
doesn't
>>>>> really
>>>>
>>>>> exist outside of those documents. It's really just a
> convenient way
>>>>> to
>>>>> organize your documents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck, and if you have any more questions, please don't
>>>>> hesitate to
>>>>> ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Joshua-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: users-bounces(a)xwiki.org
>>>>>> [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
>> Mark_Marziale(a)BCBSIL.COM
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:31 PM
>>>>>> To: XWiki Users
>>>>>> Cc: XWiki Users; users-bounces(a)xwiki.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] problem with FAQ tutorial .. space
>>>>>> assignment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Joshua,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks very much for your prompt reply. It helps a lot to
>>>>>> know the history and what WebHome means!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I correct then in first creating the FAQ space explicitly,
>>>>>> even though that's not called for in the tutorial? Like so:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I've first created the FAQ Space, then built the FAQ
Class,
>>>>>> etc, then put the code into the 'home' page for the
space, ie
>>>>>>
http://localhost/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BCBS-IL
>>>>>> ph 312-653-4293
>>>>>> mark_marziale(a)bcbsil.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rieken, Joshua" <Joshua_Rieken(a)reyrey.com>
>>>>>> Sent by: users-bounces(a)xwiki.org
>>>>>> 11/10/2009 03:18 PM
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>>>>>> XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To
>>>>>> XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
>>>>>> cc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject
>>>>>> Re: [xwiki-users] problem with FAQ tutorial .. space assignment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://localhost/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/ actually takes you to
>>>>>>
http://localhost/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/WebHome. "WebHome"
is the
>>>>>> home page
>>>>>> for any given space. The name "WebHome" came from
> earlier versions
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> XWiki, when a Space was called a Web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>> -Joshua-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: users-bounces(a)xwiki.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark_Marziale(a)BCBSIL.COM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:06 PM
>>>>>>> To: users(a)xwiki.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [xwiki-users] problem with FAQ tutorial .. space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> assignment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've followed along in the tutorial in the dev guide for
>>>>>>> creating a FAQ at
>>>>>>>
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/FAQTutorial
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's my first point of confusion: in section
'Create a
>>>>>>> homepage for your application' it states 'Go to the
>>>>>>> "FAQ.WebHome" page'. I do not see such a page.
In the latest
>>>>>>> iterations of building the FAQ I've first created the
FAQ
>>>>>>> Space, then built the FAQ Class, etc, then put the code into
>>>>>>> the 'home' page for the space, ie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://localhost/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure my problems stem from my weak understanding of
this
>>>>>>> step and how spaces are created and referenced.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Mark