23 Apr
2014
23 Apr
'14
4:24 p.m.
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From: Dmitry Bakbardin <haru_mamburu(a)mail.ru>
Date: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:03 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [xwiki-users] SearchSuggest parameters in a new syntax
gives different behaviour
To: Marius Dumitru Florea <mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>
Hi, Marius!
See below.
Wed, 2 Apr 2014 10:41:32 +0300 от Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>om>:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi Dmitry,
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Dmitry Bakbardin <haru_mamburu(a)mail.ru> wrote:
If Search Suggest is too costly, we can turn it off completely :)
Hi, all!
5.2 -> 5.4.3 Upgrade
Xwiki.SearchSuggest objects were changed
It was:
type:OBJECT AND (class:XWiki.BlogPostClass) AND objcontent:(__INPUT__*)
It is:
fq=type:DOCUMENT
fq=class:Blog.BlogPostClass
qf=object.Blog.BlogPostClass
The main difference:
- it was "__INPUT__*" query string and
- (as far as I understood) it is "__INPUT__" if parameter "q" is
omitted
The result is Solr Suggest changes it's behaviour and gives only exact results.
To make Search Suggest running as it was, we have to add: "q=__INPUT__*"
Is it done by puprpose or it is a bug and I have
to "jira" it?
On purpose. I did it as part of
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10051 (check the documentation
links). The reason I dropped the * (star) is because:
(1) Prefix matching is costly (2) The search suggest is not a filter (in the sense
that you have a
list of item and you type some text and it filters the items starting
with that text). Search is more complex. The search text is analysed,
stop words are removed, etc.
(3) It was a fake prefix matching, because if you typed more words,
only the last word was matched as prefix (not the entire text). All
the other were analysed.
IMHO, suggest means we prefer suggest more than exact search results.
What I mean, that all languages wich have declensioin are too
sensitive to the __INPUT__* search.
Usual use case for such a search is: you enter root of the word and
get back suggest of ALL forms of the word.
Even in English, which is much less "declensionable", singular and
plural is the case.
E.g. "wiki" input will give only exact much and won't show
"wikis".
Thus, it makes Solr Sugges much less relevant.
As you said, you can get back the previous behaviour using "q=__INPUT__*"
Yes, it was the firs I did, 'cause nearly to all my search strings
Solr gave me "no results". It wasn't so "severe" before the
upgrade.
:)
IMHO, it's better to leave "__INPUT__*" in default settings and amend
documentation with performance/relevancy issues tricks for Solr
Suggest tuning. "*" would be useful for most use cases, and would make
Suggest effective, especially for new users who start playing with
XWike.
I do agree, that in the high load projects it could be essential to
tweak default behaviour or turn it off at all.
Let me know what yo think,
Marius
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Kind regards,
Dmitry