25 Nov
2009
25 Nov
'09
9:09 a.m.
Hi XWiki lovers :),
By now you've probably seen the new menu bars that we have introduced
in XE 2.1M1. If not, please try XE 2.1M1 or check the release notes at
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise21M1
Since the action menu has been heavily reworked we're interesting in
gathering feedback and thus ensure that you like the new menu as much
as we do.
If you have some problems with them please let us know ASAP (since the
2.1 final release is approaching fast - early December).
So whether you like them or not, please let us know what you think
about them.
Thanks a lot
Enjoy XWiki
-Vincent on behalf of the XWiki dev team
25 Nov
25 Nov
9:29 a.m.
Hi,
I've had some difficulties coping with the new menu structure, here are my
observations:
1. Edit / Export / More Actions menus are cool :)
2. I really miss the sliding menu bar. Now I have to scroll to the top of
the page whenever I want to do something. May be it's just my resistance to
change, but I felt uncomfortable.
3. I'm unable to understand the basis for grouping create space / watch /
admin actions under xwiki menu. Made me a little confused when I was looking
for administration link. I like the old administration menu.
4. If I have a space like "MySuperSpace", the space menu looks like
"MYSPECIALSPACE" which I felt uncomfortable.
This is just how I felt.
Thanks.
- Asiri
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi XWiki lovers :),
By now you've probably seen the new menu bars that we have introduced
in XE 2.1M1. If not, please try XE 2.1M1 or check the release notes at
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise21M1
Since the action menu has been heavily reworked we're interesting in
gathering feedback and thus ensure that you like the new menu as much
as we do.
If you have some problems with them please let us know ASAP (since the
2.1 final release is approaching fast - early December).
So whether you like them or not, please let us know what you think
about them.
Thanks a lot
Enjoy XWiki
-Vincent on behalf of the XWiki dev team
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9:54 a.m.
On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote:
Hi,
I've had some difficulties coping with the new menu structure, here
are my
observations:
1. Edit / Export / More Actions menus are cool :)
2. I really miss the sliding menu bar. Now I have to scroll to the
top of
the page whenever I want to do something. May be it's just my
resistance to
change, but I felt uncomfortable.
One thing to note: the scrolling menu was raising problems on unix
platforms AFAIR.
Now the new page action menu would be awkward to scroll since it's
only taking a portion of the horizontal space and it's not at the top.
Note that one important issue that was raised to us was that the
action menu wasn't enough visible at the top. We've addressed it with
the new page level action menu.
Maybe you could suggest what you'd like to have instead? (although
it's a bit late to radically change everything, small adjustments
could still be made).
3. I'm unable to understand the basis for grouping
create space /
watch /
admin actions under xwiki menu. Made me a little confused when I was
looking
for administration link. I like the old administration menu.
The top menu is about actions not related to the current page. This is
the big change that we've brought: separation of page actions from non
page actions.
The top menu allows to perform actions on the wiki as a whole or
actions on the current space.
Administration is either a wiki action or a space action depending if
you want to administer the wiki or the space.
I also have pb with the change of location of the Administration link
but I'm pretty sure it's because of the habit I have to break of
looking for it at the top right, and that very soon I'll automatically
look for it in the new place.
4. If I have a space like "MySuperSpace",
the space menu looks like
"MYSPECIALSPACE" which I felt uncomfortable.
Using lower cases for the menus in general is something I'd also like
to see to be able to compare and verify if it's better or worse.
Thanks
-Vincent
This is just how I felt.
Thanks.
- Asiri
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
> Hi XWiki lovers :),
>
> By now you've probably seen the new menu bars that we have introduced
> in XE 2.1M1. If not, please try XE 2.1M1 or check the release notes
> at
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise21M1
>
> Since the action menu has been heavily reworked we're interesting in
> gathering feedback and thus ensure that you like the new menu as much
> as we do.
>
> If you have some problems with them please let us know ASAP (since
> the
> 2.1 final release is approaching fast - early December).
>
> So whether you like them or not, please let us know what you think
> about them.
>
> Thanks a lot
> Enjoy XWiki
> -Vincent on behalf of the XWiki dev team
11:46 a.m.
On 11/25/2009 09:54 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
A possible problem would be that for a newcommer, on a fresh
installation, the Administer entry is even harder to find. Lots of users
didn't see it when it was in the top menu directly, why would they
search for it in the XWIKI menu?
On the other hand, the top menu is a bit more visible now, and because
the default wiki is called XWIKI, it's pretty normal to try to
Administer <- XWIKI.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote:
This was fixed in 2.0 thanks to Caleb, so it wasn't an issue anymore.
Hi,
I've had some difficulties coping with the new menu structure, here
are my
observations:
1. Edit / Export / More Actions menus are cool :)
2. I really miss the sliding menu bar. Now I have to scroll to the
top of
the page whenever I want to do something. May be it's just my
resistance to
change, but I felt uncomfortable.
One thing to note: the scrolling menu was raising problems on unix
platforms AFAIR. Now the new page action menu would be awkward to
scroll since it's
only taking a portion of the horizontal space and it's not at the top.
Note that one important issue that was raised to us was that the
action menu wasn't enough visible at the top. We've addressed it with
the new page level action menu.
Maybe you could suggest what you'd like to have instead? (although
it's a bit late to radically change everything, small adjustments
could still be made).
I liked having a vertical icon menu floating next to the page content,
on the left.
3. I'm
unable to understand the basis for grouping create space /
watch /
admin actions under xwiki menu. Made me a little confused when I was
looking
for administration link. I like the old administration menu.
The top menu is about actions not related to the current page. This is
the big change that we've brought: separation of page actions from non
page actions.
The top menu allows to perform actions on the wiki as a whole or
actions on the current space.
Administration is either a wiki action or a space action depending if
you want to administer the wiki or the space.
I also have pb with the change of location of the Administration link
but I'm pretty sure it's because of the habit I have to break of
looking for it at the top right, and that very soon I'll automatically
look for it in the new place. 4. If I have a
space like "MySuperSpace", the space menu looks like
"MYSPECIALSPACE" which I felt uncomfortable.
Using lower cases for the menus in general is something I'd also like
to see to be able to compare and verify if it's better or worse.
Thanks
-Vincent
> This is just how I felt.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Asiri
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi XWiki lovers :),
>>
>> By now you've probably seen the new menu bars that we have introduced
>> in XE 2.1M1. If not, please try XE 2.1M1 or check the release notes
>> at
>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise21M1
>>
>> Since the action menu has been heavily reworked we're interesting in
>> gathering feedback and thus ensure that you like the new menu as much
>> as we do.
>>
>> If you have some problems with them please let us know ASAP (since
>> the
>> 2.1 final release is approaching fast - early December).
>>
>> So whether you like them or not, please let us know what you think
>> about them.
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>> Enjoy XWiki
>> -Vincent on behalf of the XWiki dev team 
11:57 a.m.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:29, Asiri Rathnayake
<asiri.rathnayake(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I've had some difficulties coping with the new menu structure, here are my
observations:
1. Edit / Export / More Actions menus are cool :)
2. I really miss the sliding menu bar. Now I have to scroll to the top of
the page whenever I want to do something. May be it's just my resistance to
change, but I felt uncomfortable.
3. I'm unable to understand the basis for grouping create space / watch /
admin actions under xwiki menu. Made me a little confused when I was looking
for administration link. I like the old administration menu.
4. If I have a space like "MySuperSpace", the space menu looks like
"MYSPECIALSPACE" which I felt uncomfortable.
I like the fact that wiki and space related tasks are separated from
the document task but the name of theses menu (name of the wiki and
name of the name) are really difficult to understand for a user. I
think i would prefer at least something like
Wiki (Wikiname) Space (Spacename)
This is just how I felt.
Thanks.
- Asiri
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
--
Thomas Mortagne
Hi XWiki lovers :),
By now you've probably seen the new menu bars that we have introduced
in XE 2.1M1. If not, please try XE 2.1M1 or check the release notes at
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise21M1
Since the action menu has been heavily reworked we're interesting in
gathering feedback and thus ensure that you like the new menu as much
as we do.
If you have some problems with them please let us know ASAP (since the
2.1 final release is approaching fast - early December).
So whether you like them or not, please let us know what you think
about them.
Thanks a lot
Enjoy XWiki
-Vincent on behalf of the XWiki dev team
_______________________________________________
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users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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11:58 a.m.
I don't quite like them.
- The icons are not suggestive enough. Why is Edit Class a box? Why is
Export as RTF using the MSWord icon? Why is the Watchlist using the same
icon as the adminster entries? These are just the top most annoying ones.
- The need to scroll bugs me. It was much more convenient to have the
menu in the same place. Sure, the alternative is to use the keyboard
shortcuts, but I never do, and it's not something easy to figure out
without reading the documentation.
- I'm not sure using the database name as the menu name is a good idea.
First, what do you do with a menu named GTLLMIPY? Second, how do you
document it so that people can easily understand what you're talking
about? Impatient people will just look at the pictures and see the XWIKI
menu, which they don't have.
On 11/25/2009 09:09 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi XWiki lovers :),
By now you've probably seen the new menu bars that we have introduced
in XE 2.1M1. If not, please try XE 2.1M1 or check the release notes at
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise21M1
Since the action menu has been heavily reworked we're interesting in
gathering feedback and thus ensure that you like the new menu as much
as we do.
If you have some problems with them please let us know ASAP (since the
2.1 final release is approaching fast - early December).
So whether you like them or not, please let us know what you think
about them.
Thanks a lot
Enjoy XWiki
-Vincent on behalf of the XWiki dev team
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
12:02 p.m.
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:29, Asiri Rathnayake
<asiri.rathnayake(a)gmail.com> wrote:
+1.
- Asiri
Hi,
I've had some difficulties coping with the new menu structure, here are
my
observations:
1. Edit / Export / More Actions menus are cool :)
2. I really miss the sliding menu bar. Now I have to scroll to the top of
the page whenever I want to do something. May be it's just my resistance
to
change, but I felt uncomfortable.
3. I'm unable to understand the basis for grouping create space / watch /
admin actions under xwiki menu. Made me a little confused when I was
looking
for administration link. I like the old
administration menu.
4. If I have a space like "MySuperSpace", the space menu looks like
"MYSPECIALSPACE" which I felt uncomfortable.
I like the fact that wiki and space related tasks are separated from
the document task but the name of theses menu (name of the wiki and
name of the name) are really difficult to understand for a user. I
think i would prefer at least something like
Wiki (Wikiname) Space (Spacename)
12:02 p.m.
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
A possible problem would be that for a newcommer, on a fresh
installation, the Administer entry is even harder to find. Lots of users
didn't see it when it was in the top menu directly, why would they
search for it in the XWIKI menu?
For long space names, maybe we should trim them after 30-40 chars...
Guillaume
--
Guillaume Lerouge
Product Manager - XWiki SAS
Skype: wikibc
Twitter: glerouge
http://guillaumelerouge.com/
On 11/25/2009 09:54 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
We used to have that in XWiki Workspaces (actually we still do). In
practices it looks weird to have a set of non-moving images right in the
middle of your page, it feels like there's a display bug. In my experience
it's hard getting accustomed to it (and I'm the one who insisted on having
that in XWS in the first place).
On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote:
This was fixed in 2.0 thanks to Caleb, so it wasn't an issue anymore.
Hi,
I've had some difficulties coping with the new menu structure, here
are my
observations:
1. Edit / Export / More Actions menus are cool :)
2. I really miss the sliding menu bar. Now I have to scroll to the
top of
the page whenever I want to do something. May be it's just my
resistance to
change, but I felt uncomfortable.
One thing to note: the scrolling menu was raising problems on unix
platforms AFAIR. Now the new page action menu would be awkward to
scroll since it's
only taking a portion of the horizontal space and it's not at the top.
Note that one important issue that was raised to us was that the
action menu wasn't enough visible at the top. We've addressed it with
the new page level action menu.
Maybe you could suggest what you'd like to have instead? (although
it's a bit late to radically change everything, small adjustments
could still be made).
I liked having a vertical icon menu floating next to the page content,
on the left.
3. I'm unable to understand the basis for grouping
create space /
watch /
admin actions under xwiki menu. Made me a little confused when I was
looking
for administration link. I like the old administration menu.
The top menu is about actions not related to the current page. This is
the big change that we've brought: separation of page actions from non
page actions.
The top menu allows to perform actions on the wiki as a whole or
actions on the current space.
Administration is either a wiki action or a space action depending if
you want to administer the wiki or the space.
I also have pb with the change of location of the Administration link
but I'm pretty sure it's because of the habit I have to break of
looking for it at the top right, and that very soon I'll automatically
look for it in the new place. On the other hand, the top menu is a bit more visible
now, and because
the default wiki is called XWIKI, it's pretty normal to try to
Administer <- XWIKI.
Another thing I was thinking about is that maybe in XE we should call this
"HOME" or "WIKI" rather than "XWIKI" in order to make it
more relevant to
the user. While in XEM using the wiki name makes sense, in XE it sounds a
bit weird...
4. If I have a space like "MySuperSpace",
the space menu looks like
"MYSPECIALSPACE" which I felt uncomfortable.
Using lower cases for the menus in general is something I'd also like
to see to be able to compare and verify if it's better or worse.
Thanks
-Vincent
> This is just how I felt.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Asiri
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi XWiki lovers :),
>>
>> By now you've probably seen the new menu bars that we have introduced
>> in XE 2.1M1. If not, please try XE 2.1M1 or check the release notes
>> at
>>
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise21M1
>>
>> Since the action menu has been heavily reworked we're interesting in
>> gathering feedback and thus ensure that you like the new menu as much
>> as we do.
>>
>> If you have some problems with them please let us know ASAP (since
>> the
>> 2.1 final release is approaching fast - early December).
>>
>> So whether you like them or not, please let us know what you think
>> about them.
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>> Enjoy XWiki
>> -Vincent on behalf of the XWiki dev team
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
_______________________________________________
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12:06 p.m.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:57, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Thomas Mortagne
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:29, Asiri Rathnayake
<asiri.rathnayake(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Also note that there is pretty names for wikis in wikis descriptors so
they should be used instead of the technical wiki id.
Hi,
I've had some difficulties coping with the new menu structure, here are my
observations:
1. Edit / Export / More Actions menus are cool :)
2. I really miss the sliding menu bar. Now I have to scroll to the top of
the page whenever I want to do something. May be it's just my resistance to
change, but I felt uncomfortable.
3. I'm unable to understand the basis for grouping create space / watch /
admin actions under xwiki menu. Made me a little confused when I was looking
for administration link. I like the old administration menu.
4. If I have a space like "MySuperSpace", the space menu looks like
"MYSPECIALSPACE" which I felt uncomfortable.
I like the fact that wiki and space related tasks are separated from
the document task but the name of theses menu (name of the wiki and
name of the name) are really difficult to understand for a user. I
think i would prefer at least something like
Wiki (Wikiname) Space (Spacename)
This is just how I felt.
Thanks.
- Asiri
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
--
Thomas Mortagne
Hi XWiki lovers :),
By now you've probably seen the new menu bars that we have introduced
in XE 2.1M1. If not, please try XE 2.1M1 or check the release notes at
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise21M1
Since the action menu has been heavily reworked we're interesting in
gathering feedback and thus ensure that you like the new menu as much
as we do.
If you have some problems with them please let us know ASAP (since the
2.1 final release is approaching fast - early December).
So whether you like them or not, please let us know what you think
about them.
Thanks a lot
Enjoy XWiki
-Vincent on behalf of the XWiki dev team
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