Dear XWiki users, We’re getting close to the end of the XWiki 6.x cycle (6.4 is planned for the end of December) and in January we’ll start developing the XWiki 7.x cycle (which will last the whole 2015 year), starting with XWiki 7.0. Thus it’s time for the XWiki devs to start defining the global roadmap for XWiki 7.x. As XWiki users, I’d like to know if you have some needs for XWiki 7.x. What would you be interested in seeing in XWiki 7.x? I’d like to start some proposal on the xwiki devs list (for the XWiki 7.x cycle) around end of December so it would be nice if you could shoot your suggestion ideas fast so that we can take them into account in the discussion! :) Thanks a lot for your help and I hope you’re enjoying using XWiki! -Vincent Massol XWiki Committer _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Hello. New XWiki user here. First, a big thanks, we are enjoying XWiki. :) We have a fairly common use case, using the wiki for documenting servers and systems, trying to build an SKMS ala ITIL. What i'd like to see is better formatting of text being cut & pasted from (mainly) Word. The single biggest issue I have heard complaints about is formatting. We are moving away from a Lotus Domino environment and here too the formatting is mangled (this may have everything to do with Domino and nothing with XWiki however) when doing copy/paste. I'd like tables to work like they do in Excel. When I press the tab key I want to move to the next field. I want to be able to size the table with my mouse in real-time. I want the columns to be plainly visible, not just the rows. I want numbered lists to be a core feature.

Making text different colors and/or fonts should work like in a regular word processor, with a menu item in the WYSIWYG editor.

That's from the top of my head, anyway. Have a great weekend. Regards, Daniel On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:17 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: -- Regards/Mvh Daniel Lundh _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Hi, I'd add some stuff, based on feedbacks from my (advanced) users: - they usually consider that readability of titles and sub-titles (headings) inside wiki pages is not very good, difficult to differentiate them - when they create new pages (by putting [[new page>>newpage]]), once new page created, they find difficult to add links to this same new page from other pages (have to remember the name). It seems they didn't know about the corresponding feature in wysiwyg editor ... - a smarter TOC macro, that would optionally include in TOC, content from child pages (child meaning here, linked from current page). The macro would in this case, update headings levels of included (linked) pages, so their min level correspond to current TOC level + 1 (not sure I'm clear ... but let's say that it would generate a coherent TOC, without having to renumber child pages headings) Not very new: some people have difficulties really understanding concepts of Space, page, how to name them, what happens when they enter a new page name, etc ... I added "Space Hierarchy" panel, but they seem even more confused :) (feedbacks based on 5.x) BR, Jeremie 2014-12-05 18:19 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: servers from key I http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/WysiwygEditor#HQuickRefer… http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/WysiwygEditor#HPluginsa… 7.x _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

- they usually consider that readability of titles and sub-titles (headings) inside wiki pages is not very good, difficult to differentiate them

jerem wrote Why don't you use a "Style Sheet Extension" and completely define how each Header should look like?

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On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Lundh < dlundh(a)gmail.com > wrote: This is already possible. http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/WysiwygEditor#HQuickRefer… . You need to enable it from the WYSIWYG editor section in the wiki administration. It's not very straightforward but this http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/WysiwygEditor#HPluginsa… can help. The rest is very good feedback. Thanks, Marius _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Hi! In one way, I very much appreciate the relatively high frequency of updates done by the XWIKI crew. You are doing a great job, making sure that XWIKI is alive and kicking and always improving. The downside to this, is all the work needed to be done when upgrading. So, I don't do that very often. The basic part of installation/migration works very well, but when it comes to content, the upgrade procedure is messy, as I see it. It is a hassle to have to pick and choose between various parts when importing and exported XAR. I would very much suggest planning for a future where the parts that are XWIKI software are clearly separated from the parts where customers typically do modifications. Especially items like users and groups. It should be possible to have a more separated export/import so that you GET new versions of e.g. the admin pages, while still KEEPING your setup of users, groups, etc., without having to click on a million of checkboxes in the import.

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Hi! In one way, I very much appreciate the relatively high frequency of updates done by the XWIKI crew. You are doing a great job, making sure that XWIKI is alive and kicking and always improving. The downside to this, is all the work needed to be done when upgrading. So, I don't do that very often. The basic part of installation/migration works very well, but when it comes to content, the upgrade procedure is messy, as I see it. It is a hassle to have to pick and choose between various parts when importing and exported XAR. I would very much suggest planning for a future where the parts that are XWIKI software are clearly separated from the parts where customers typically do modifications. Especially items like users and groups. It should be possible to have a more separated export/import so that you GET new versions of e.g. the admin pages, while still KEEPING your setup of users, groups, etc., without having to click on a million of checkboxes in the import.

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Hi, On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Mortagne &lt;thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: Sure, but to benefit from all those nice Distribution Wizard features, Harald would first need to... upgrade to the latest version ;-)

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On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Guillaume Lerouge &lt;guillaume(a)xwiki.com&gt;

> Hi, > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Mortagne <

>> wrote: >> > Hi! >> > >> > In one way, I very much appreciate the relatively high frequency of >> updates done by the XWIKI crew. You are doing a great job, making sure

>> XWIKI is alive and kicking and always improving. >> > >> > The downside to this, is all the work needed to be done when

>> So, I don't do that very often. The basic part of

>> works very well, but when it comes to content, the upgrade procedure is >> messy, as I see it. It is a hassle to have to pick and choose between >> various parts when importing and exported XAR. >> > >> > I would very much suggest planning for a future where the parts that

>> XWIKI software are clearly separated from the parts where customers >> typically do modifications. Especially items like users and groups. It >> should be possible to have a more separated export/import so that you

>> new versions of e.g. the admin pages, while still KEEPING your setup of >> users, groups, etc., without having to click on a million of

Distribution Wizard has been introduced in 4.2 so not really the latest version. And even before that export/import everything never really been standard upgrade process either.

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I have say, upgrading makes me very nervous too..

so, I'd definitely vote for anything that changes or enhances that process. So far, I'm terrified to even try an upgrade (currently on 5.4) since my wiki is production and we've done a fair bit of customized solutions to unique problems (likely not in a "supported" way maybe) .

My fear is that some piece of code or settings will get overwritten which will break stuff and I won't know where to look to fix them. 😃 A wizard would be awesome to take the guess work out of it. 

As is, I've read some of the tutorials out there regarding upgrades several times but I'm not really able to determine the prescribed steps using those.

I think at the end of the day I'm going to end up exporting my solutions as XAR's and then try importing them into an upgraded Xwiki environment too, since it seems easier to me.

> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET wrote: > > Le 9 déc. 2014 22:37, "Thomas Mortagne" a écrit > : >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Guillaume Lerouge > wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Mortagne < > thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Harald Ommang > >> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> In one way, I very much appreciate the relatively high frequency of >>>> updates done by the XWIKI crew. You are doing a great job, making sure > that >>>> XWIKI is alive and kicking and always improving. >>>>> >>>>> The downside to this, is all the work needed to be done when > upgrading. >>>> So, I don't do that very often. The basic part of > installation/migration >>>> works very well, but when it comes to content, the upgrade procedure is >>>> messy, as I see it. It is a hassle to have to pick and choose between >>>> various parts when importing and exported XAR. >>>>> >>>>> I would very much suggest planning for a future where the parts that > are >>>> XWIKI software are clearly separated from the parts where customers >>>> typically do modifications. Especially items like users and groups. It >>>> should be possible to have a more separated export/import so that you > GET >>>> new versions of e.g. the admin pages, while still KEEPING your setup of >>>> users, groups, etc., without having to click on a million of > checkboxes in >>>> the import. >>>> >>>> I don't really understand this comment, doing export/import is really >>>> not the standard way of doing an upgrade. In typical upgrade you >>>> backup everything if you want to be safe (or better you have automated >>>> backups and you don't really need to do it when you upgrade), upgrade >>>> the WAR part (if you use the Debian package then it's just about doing >>>> apt-get upgrade or install with a specific version), restart, XWiki >>>> upgrade the database shema automatically if needed and then you get >>>> the Distribution Wizard which download and upgrade the wiki pages with >>>> 3 ways merge. Most of the time you don't have anything to do. >>> >>> Sure, but to benefit from all those nice Distribution Wizard features, >>> Harald would first need to... upgrade to the latest version ;-) >> >> Distribution Wizard has been introduced in 4.2 so not really the >> latest version. And even before that export/import everything never >> really been standard upgrade process either. > > Sure, but you usually did reverse way : import new xwiki ui xar (and > remember to uncheck standard pages customized, or have them overwritten). > And yes, it was sometimes a hassle, and compared to that distribution > wizard is really really great :) > >> >>> >>> Guillaume

Hi, Something I just met - as it's an "improvement" proposal I thought I could propose it here, but I may just create a jira if you think it's interesting: Would be great if there could be an option, in Attachments tab at pages bottom, to display attachments as a grid of thumbnails, instead of just a list. The best would be to by default reach current Attachments view, when clicking on Attachments tab (because it shows fastly), then have a little flag, button, or whatever, to choose a "thumbnail" view. This "thumbnail" view, could be the exact same kind of view as proposed by Attachments Selector Macro [1]. BTW it could be nice that this {{attachmentSelector/}} could be used as (or could rely on another extension that) merely displays attachments, without concept of saving the attachment name in a property in an XObject ...

Use-case sample: when you import a .doc document, all images are set as attachments with automatic naming. Without thumbnail, it's quite hard then to retrieve a specific attachment without opening all of them one by one.

BR, Jeremie [1] - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Attachment+Selector+Ma… 2014-12-10 9:46 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;et>: _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

2014-12-10 15:26 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: Yes, but it's still a "one by one" browser, not a grid of thumbnails, and it's not built-in the Attachment tab by default ... If it existed it could even be added to the File Manager Application [2], currently proposing a Tree and a Live Table view, it could also offer a Grid view with thumbnails why not ... [2] - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Applicati…

Dear XWiki users, We’re getting close to the end of the XWiki 6.x cycle (6.4 is planned for the end of December) and in January we’ll start developing the XWiki 7.x cycle (which will last the whole 2015 year), starting with XWiki 7.0. Thus it’s time for the XWiki devs to start defining the global roadmap for XWiki 7.x. As XWiki users, I’d like to know if you have some needs for XWiki 7.x. What would you be interested in seeing in XWiki 7.x? I’d like to start some proposal on the xwiki devs list (for the XWiki 7.x cycle) around end of December so it would be nice if you could shoot your suggestion ideas fast so that we can take them into account in the discussion! :) Thanks a lot for your help and I hope you’re enjoying using XWiki! -Vincent Massol XWiki Committer