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Richard Hierlmeier

12 Apr 2012 12 Apr '12

11:20 a.m.

I tested the new hidden documents feature in xwiki 4.0RC1. I do not see any impact of the "Hidden document" flag. I can see hidden documents as unregistered user and also as user with user preferences "Display hidden documents" set to "No". Changes on the hidden document are visible in the activity stream for such users. Is it working?

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Vincent Massol

12 Apr 12 Apr

11:43 a.m.

Hi Richard, On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

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Yes and no! :) See http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris… Thanks -Vincent

Richard Hierlmeier

1:11 p.m.

Hi Vicent, Am 12.04.2012 11:43, schrieb Vincent Massol:

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Hi Richard, On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

Yes and no! :) See http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris…

What does the following sentence (copied from the HNewtechnicalcontenthidingsystem wiki page) mean for the end user? Now when a user doesn't choose "Yes" in the preferences above, he will not be displayed documents marked as "hidden" in the results of queries using the "hidden" filter. Where is the hidden filter active? In the wiki search? In the activity stream? Thank you Richard

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Vincent Massol

1:37 p.m.

On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

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Hi Vicent, Am 12.04.2012 11:43, schrieb Vincent Massol:

Hi Richard, On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

Yes and no! :) See http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris…

I've updated the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris… Hopefully it's more clear now. Let us know if something is still not clear. Thanks -Vincent

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Thank you Richard > Thanks > -Vincent

Vincent Massol

1:49 p.m.

On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:

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On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

Hi Vicent, Am 12.04.2012 11:43, schrieb Vincent Massol:

Hi Richard, On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

Yes and no! :) See http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris…

I've updated the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris…

I've now explained clearly how to test this developer feature: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris… Hope it helps, -Vincent

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Hopefully it's more clear now. Let us know if something is still not clear. Thanks -Vincent > Thank you > > Richard > > >> Thanks >> -Vincent

Richard Hierlmeier

13 Apr 13 Apr

9:01 a.m.

Am 12.04.2012 13:49, schrieb Vincent Massol:

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On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:

On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

Hi Vicent, Am 12.04.2012 11:43, schrieb Vincent Massol:

Hi Richard, On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote: > > I tested the new hidden documents feature in xwiki 4.0RC1. I do not see any impact of the "Hidden document" flag. > > I can see hidden documents as unregistered user and also as user with user preferences "Display hidden documents" set to "No". > > Changes on the hidden document are visible in the activity stream for such users. > > Is it working? Yes and no! :) See http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris…

I've updated the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris…

I've now explained clearly how to test this developer feature: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris… Hope it helps, -Vincent

Thank you Vicent for clarification. I executed the test from the HNewtechnicalcontenthidingsystem document and it worked. However, for me the sentence "If the user doesn't set explicitly the Hidden setting value in his profile, he won't see hidden documents by default. Thus seeing hidden documents is an explicit choice." is still missleading. I can see hidden documents as a user with the Hidden setting value "No" in his profile. The wiki search finds hidden pages, in the document index hidden documents are displayed and the activity stream displays changes on hidden pages. Thank you Richard

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Hopefully it's more clear now. Let us know if something is still not clear. Thanks -Vincent > Thank you > > Richard > > >> Thanks >> -Vincent

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Vincent Massol

9:11 a.m.

On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

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Am 12.04.2012 13:49, schrieb Vincent Massol:

On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:

On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

Hi Vicent, Am 12.04.2012 11:43, schrieb Vincent Massol: > Hi Richard, > > On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote: > >> >> I tested the new hidden documents feature in xwiki 4.0RC1. I do not see any impact of the "Hidden document" flag. >> >> I can see hidden documents as unregistered user and also as user with user preferences "Display hidden documents" set to "No". >> >> Changes on the hidden document are visible in the activity stream for such users. >> >> Is it working? > > Yes and no! :) > > See http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris… > What does the following sentence (copied from the HNewtechnicalcontenthidingsystem wiki page) mean for the end user? Now when a user doesn't choose "Yes" in the preferences above, he will not be displayed documents marked as "hidden" in the results of queries using the "hidden" filter. Where is the hidden filter active? In the wiki search? In the activity stream?

I've updated the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris…

I've now explained clearly how to test this developer feature: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris… Hope it helps, -Vincent

I think that's because for some reason you're not reading the big warning at the top of the section… (or it's not clear?) I've now repeated it again in situ: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris… Is it better? Thanks -Vincent

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Thank you Richard > >> >> Hopefully it's more clear now. >> >> Let us know if something is still not clear. >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> Thank you >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent

Richard Hierlmeier

12:30 p.m.

Am 13.04.2012 09:11, schrieb Vincent Massol:

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On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote:

Am 12.04.2012 13:49, schrieb Vincent Massol:

On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:

On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote: > Hi Vicent, > > Am 12.04.2012 11:43, schrieb Vincent Massol: >> Hi Richard, >> >> On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Richard Hierlmeier wrote: >> >>> >>> I tested the new hidden documents feature in xwiki 4.0RC1. I do not see any impact of the "Hidden document" flag. >>> >>> I can see hidden documents as unregistered user and also as user with user preferences "Display hidden documents" set to "No". >>> >>> Changes on the hidden document are visible in the activity stream for such users. >>> >>> Is it working? >> >> Yes and no! :) >> >> See http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris… >> > > What does the following sentence (copied from the HNewtechnicalcontenthidingsystem wiki page) mean for the end user? > > Now when a user doesn't choose "Yes" in the preferences above, > he will not be displayed documents marked as "hidden" in the > results of queries using the "hidden" filter. > > Where is the hidden filter active? In the wiki search? In the activity stream? I've updated the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris…

I've now explained clearly how to test this developer feature: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterpris… Hope it helps, -Vincent

Now it is crystal clear. Thank you Richard

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Thanks -Vincent

Thank you Richard > >> >> Hopefully it's more clear now. >> >> Let us know if something is still not clear. >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> Thank you >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent

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