[xwiki-users] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2 - xwiki-users@xwiki.org

Ecaterina Valica

8 Apr 8 Apr

9:44 p.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

+1 16 Thanks, Caty On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 19:02, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN… ), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Caleb James DeLisle

1 a.m.

+1 12E Caleb Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

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Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

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Jeroen Baten

8:34 a.m.

+1 4A On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 18:02 +0200, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

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Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the

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Sergiu Dumitriu

4:31 p.m.

On 04/09/2010 04:03 PM, Trevor Russ wrote:

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+1 16B. Although I found the "powered by" buttons for *most* submissions (including 16) to be almost unreadable.

Any hints on how to improve it? What exactly is wrong? Note that the buttons are not completely polished yet, this is just a printscreen of a quick SVG.

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Trevor

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Thomas Mortagne

4:56 p.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

I like both 4A and 12E but 4A is less close to old xwik.org so: +1 for 4A On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 18:02, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

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Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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[Ricardo Rodriguez] eBioTIC.

6:52 p.m.

Hi everybody! I would like to regain access to this list by voting here. Thanks for the chance. With a brand new hat, but still Ricardo! ***** +1 for number 19 ***** Even though I would encourage the author/s to develop and show us integration with Colibri, mockups and so on, so forth! I am not a graphic designer, but asymmetry or apparent lack of internal structure is not handicap for me. XWiki is intended to help to evolve contents with an apparent lack of structure to structured, even semantically structured, ones! Greetings, Ricardo -- Ricardo Rodríguez CTO eBiotic. Life Sciences, Data Modeling and Information Management Systems

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Trevor Russ

7:33 p.m.

Ah, it could just be due to the "printscreen of a quick SVG". The "powered by" buttons were unreadable to the point where if I didn't know what their intent was, I wouldn't know what they were other than coloured blobs with some white writing. I presume the final versions would be large enough to be legible. "Zooming in" on the screenshots show them up better, and while I like the full "XWiki" logo, I find the Icon and Button "X" part to be a little thin/weak and maybe spread out. I don't know how else to describe it. What I really like about 16B is the different logos for .org, Enterprise, and Office. Trevor On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:31:34 +0200 Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

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On 04/09/2010 04:03 PM, Trevor Russ wrote:

+1 16B. Although I found the "powered by" buttons for most submissions (including 16) to be almost unreadable.

Any hints on how to improve it? What exactly is wrong? Note that the buttons are not completely polished yet, this is just a printscreen of a quick SVG. > Trevor

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Alex Busenius

9:06 p.m.

+1 for 16 IMO the version with straight W is better. Alex On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

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Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

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Raluca Stavro

12 Apr 12 Apr

8:39 a.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

+1 to 16B (default-straight). Raluca. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

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Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Marius Dumitru Florea

9:20 a.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

+1 for 16. Thanks, Marius Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

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Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

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Jerome Velociter

10:22 a.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

+1 for 4 Jerome.

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+1 to 16B (default-straight). Raluca. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Valdis Vītoliņš

3:35 p.m.

Agree that small icon for http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/final… looks good, but for bigger sizes it looks for me as squirrel with flightskin :-) Therefore I choose 16 with straight W as it seems more ordered. http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-de… Valdis

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Thibaut Camberlin

4:26 p.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

Hi, +0.8 for 12A +0.2 for 16B -- Thibaut Camberlin On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Eveilleau <thomas(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

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+1 for 4 Thomas Le 12/04/10 10:22, Jerome Velociter a écrit :

+1 for 4 Jerome. > +1 to 16B (default-straight). > > Raluca. > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu<sergiu(a)xwiki.com>

wrote:

> >> Hello XWiki Community, >> >> We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many >> thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the >> first round of votes (digest here: >>

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN… ),

>> we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . >> >> The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not >> already done for round 1: >> * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the >> votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each >> proposal on >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) >> * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) >> * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office >> * provide samples for light and dark background >> * provide a black&white version >> * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative

part

>> of the logo >> * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo >> * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current >> skin, colibri >> >> For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already >> uploaded here: >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . >> For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions >> for round 2 as well, >> and voters will have to use their imagination in case >> any of the required use cases is missing. >> >> >> VOTING: >> >> You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or >> users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. >> >> Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists >> ( >>

http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo…

). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Thibaut Camberlin

4:40 p.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

My corrected vote is +1 for 12A. :) On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Thibaut Camberlin < thibaut.camberlin(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

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Hi, +0.8 for 12A +0.2 for 16B -- Thibaut Camberlin On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Eveilleau <thomas(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:

+1 for 4 Thomas Le 12/04/10 10:22, Jerome Velociter a écrit :

+1 for 4 Jerome. > +1 to 16B (default-straight). > > Raluca. > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu<sergiu(a)xwiki.com>

wrote:

> >> Hello XWiki Community, >> >> We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many >> thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the >> first round of votes (digest here: >>

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN… ),

>> we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . >> >> The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not >> already done for round 1: >> * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the >> votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each >> proposal on >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) >> * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) >> * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and

office

>> * provide samples for light and dark background >> * provide a black&white version >> * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative

part

>> of the logo >> * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the

logo

>> * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current >> skin, colibri >> >> For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already >> uploaded here: >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . >> For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions >> for round 2 as well, >> and voters will have to use their imagination in case >> any of the required use cases is missing. >> >> >> VOTING: >> >> You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or >> users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. >> >> Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists >> ( >>

http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo…

>> ). >> >> IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, >> please try to also ask yourself the following questions: >> >> * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other

logos,

>> including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. >> * Is it easy to remember and recognize? >> * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new >> XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in

order

>> to better integrate with the logo. >> * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be >> successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large >> poster? >> * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark >> backgrounds? >> * What would it look like in black and white (not just

grayscale)?

> It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look > attractive and keep the main features. > > > TIMELINE: > > 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, > users(a)xwiki.org > 11/Apr/10 : End of votes > > > Thanks, > -- > Sergiu Dumitriu > http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Anca Luca

11:09 p.m.

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hard to choose, but it's gonna be +1 for 16B (slanted Ws). Happy hacking, Anca On 04/08/2010 07:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

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Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

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Peter McLarty

2:18 a.m.

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+1 16b Slanted w's

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On 04/08/2010 07:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

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Guillaume Lerouge

11:29 a.m.

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Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

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+1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it..

I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read "XWiki" in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? Guillaume

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Ludovic Le 12/04/10 16:44, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : On 04/12/2010 04:30 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote:

My corrected vote is +1 for 12A.

12A has been retired and is no longer a valid option. Please choose another one.

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Sergiu Dumitriu

11:37 a.m.

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On 04/13/2010 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:

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Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost<ludovic(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

+1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it..

I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read "XWiki" in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts?

Maybe it would be good for people to propose improved versions, but it will be hard to improve readability while also maintaining the style/logo idea. One option would be to keep just the X from the logo, and use a normal font for writing the actual product name (something like 4 does with the pencils).

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Guillaume > Ludovic > > Le 12/04/10 16:44, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : > > On 04/12/2010 04:30 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote: >> >> >>> My corrected vote is +1 for 12A. >>> >>> >> 12A has been retired and is no longer a valid option. Please choose >> another one. >>

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Ecaterina Valica

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Hi, I think version 16 is the ONLY original logo we have for this challenge. It is abstract enough to make a great brand and be reused for variations. It is simple, straightforward and easily to remember (not to reproduce, to remember that you've seen it before). It's look IMO is perfect for a technical application and community. It's smart, creative and I LOVE IT :) Go version 16 :) Caty On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:41, Fabio Mancinelli <fabio.mancinelli(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:

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On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:

Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

+1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it..

I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I

had

people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able

to

read "XWiki" in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone

to

understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about

to

make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? Guillaume

I share your opinion... Besides the fact that I don't like it because it's miles away from the "web 2.0" style that I think we tend to. It would be good if our style was "geeky-oldschool" but I don't think it's the case. But this is a personal and questionable opinion. The fact is that me too, at a first glance, I can't read XWiki in it and I have to make an effort in order to "see" XWiki written in that logo. My 2 cents, Fabio _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

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Vincent Massol

12:36 p.m.

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On Apr 13, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:

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Btw, logos are graphical marks and is not mandatory that they are logotypes (wordmarks). This means you don't necessarily need to read the name of the product from the start (look at apple, volkswagen, audi, sun, etc). After you know it's XWiki, you can easily see what proposal 16 states.

I don't agree with this reasoning. Either you use a logo that doesn't mean anything (ie it's a symbol, an image, etc) or you have a logo with letters and in that case it must be readable. Even though I know it's about XWiki, I can't even read it... I don't find the logo that smart. A smart logo is a logo that is simple, polished and that be read easily. Cleverness is not usually that good in branding since a good portion of people won't understand the clever thing. Thanks -Vincent

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The logo should be the identity and feeling of that product. Having a smart logo would be nice for us, don't you think? Caty On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 13:00, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I think version 16 is the ONLY original logo we have for this challenge. It is abstract enough to make a great brand and be reused for variations. It is simple, straightforward and easily to remember (not to reproduce, to remember that you've seen it before). It's look IMO is perfect for a technical application and community. It's smart, creative and I LOVE IT :) Go version 16 :) Caty On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:41, Fabio Mancinelli < fabio.mancinelli(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:

Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com>

wrote:

> > +1 for 4A > > and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a

missing

> arm.. > I can't read XWiki in it.. > I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I

had

people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't

able to

read "XWiki" in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting,

this

logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect

anyone to

understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about

to

make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? Guillaume

I share your opinion... Besides the fact that I don't like it because it's miles away from the "web 2.0" style that I think we tend to. It would be good if our style was "geeky-oldschool" but I don't think it's the case. But this is a personal and questionable opinion. The fact is that me too, at a first glance, I can't read XWiki in it and I have to make an effort in order to "see" XWiki written in that logo. My 2 cents, Fabio _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

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Marius Dumitru Florea

3:39 p.m.

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Hi all, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:

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Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

+1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it..

I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read "XWiki" in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it.

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Any thoughts?

IMO it's a bit too late to give -1 for a logo that passed the first round. Is it less readable now? 16 was voted by 11 community members (including myself) in the first round. Do we count less than "people from outside the project"? If we want a community-chosen logo then we should let the community choose. If we want a logo that is good for marketing then we should find a branding company to do it for us. Thanks, Marius

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Guillaume

Ludovic Le 12/04/10 16:44, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : On 04/12/2010 04:30 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote:

My corrected vote is +1 for 12A.

12A has been retired and is no longer a valid option. Please choose another one.

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Vincent Massol

10:05 a.m.

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On Apr 13, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:

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Hi all, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:

Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

+1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it..

I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read "XWiki" in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it.

Any thoughts?

IMO it's a bit too late to give -1 for a logo that passed the first round. Is it less readable now?

No but if you check none of us voted for it and there was no rule for giving -1 (I would have given it otherwise since I didn't like it in the first round. That said I was pretty sure nobody would vote for it when I saw it. I was wrong it seems ;)). BTW the problem of readability was raised even in the first round but not much was done about it (or I didn't see it).

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16 was voted by 11 community members (including myself) in the first round. Do we count less than "people from outside the project"? If we want a community-chosen logo then we should let the community choose. If we want a logo that is good for marketing then we should find a branding company to do it for us.

errr? We *definitely* want a logo that is good for marketing! That's the main point (the only point?) of having a logo. When users log into some website and see this logo we want them to know the site is using XWiki (if they can't read it, they won't even be able to google it if they like it and want to find more about this project). It seems you're opposing marketing and community. I don't know why. This is all about marketing. The whole xwiki.org is about marketing (i.e. make people want to use XWiki). Otherwise we'd just publish the sources with no documentation at all. Thanks -Vincent PS: I'm not saying that we should revote or remove that logo. I'm just giving a strong opinion that the logo is unreadable and is going to cause a lot of confusion. I would like to see that fixed if that logo is selected by the vote.

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Thanks, Marius > > Guillaume > > >> Ludovic >> >> Le 12/04/10 16:44, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : >> >> On 04/12/2010 04:30 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote: >>> >>>> My corrected vote is +1 for 12A. >>>> >>>> >>> 12A has been retired and is no longer a valid option. Please choose >>> another one.

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Raluca Stavro

10:58 a.m.

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Hi all, How about this alternative: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-va…. I think that the W is readable now. Raluca. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Valdis Vītoliņš <valdis.vitolins(a)odo.lv> wrote:

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Readability is better, but for me upper right backgoing "serif" for w seems unnecessary. In place of (ascii art): \// \ /\\/\/iki only in this way: \/ /\\/\/iki Then X can be bigger and w can be aligned with k. What do you think? Valdis

I completely agree with Marius, I would also add that since this is a Community project, it should have a Community logo ! Since 16 has receive many votes now, and that I also agree with Vincent, Ludovic and others, it is not readable enough, I have made an alternative design: W-angle. My feeling was that the W is difficult to read, so my proposal try to keep the style and reworked it. There is also small changes in spacing, and a different powered by button. Here is almost all that was requested in a proposal with this variable: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16%2D… I really hope that if the logo 16 is chosen, my proposal could help in mitigating the disappointment of those that really find it unacceptable. WDYT ? Denis

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Marius Dumitru Florea

15 Apr 15 Apr

7:28 a.m.

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Trevor Russ wrote:

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I don't particularly like the recent alternative suggestions, the "w" is either getting unwieldy or too wide, losing its original impact, and I'd drop my +1 for it in those cases. To add my "hack", what if: a) the "X" was made bigger and put "behind" the "Wiki" part b) the "w" was a full W (straighter, not spread out) c) the "k" was a full k (add the vertical line) ... then it might be more readable while still retaining a logo quality? I didn't vote for 4 because I agree with some others: a) the pencils do imply drawing more than collaborative writing; b) it seems to be lacking that "professional" logo quality.

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But maybe we're forcing something that shouldn't be forced. Could it be that *none* of the proposed logos fit what you're after, and we're just choosing from the best options presented?

I'm looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X and http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/09/index.html . There are some X representations which could have been the starting point for the XWiki logo (e.g. the Egyptian hieroglyph "column", Phoenician S, Greek Xi, Braille or Morse code for X). I would have liked to see a logo proposal consisting of an easy to remember symbol that is not visually related to the latin X, even if it didn't had a lot of meaning. Thanks, Marius

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Trevor On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:58:54 +0300 Raluca Stavro wrote:

Hi all, How about this alternative: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-va…. I think that the W is readable now. Raluca.

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Marius Dumitru Florea

19 Apr 19 Apr

9:35 a.m.

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Nice! Dan Bozaru wrote:

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My humble try. Speech bubbles, negative space X. http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/xwiki… http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/xwiki…

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Dan Bozaru

12:41 p.m.

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Raluca, Currently, the text is optically aligned with the apex of the right speech bubble. Aligning the mark to the type would harm its balance. Anyway, I'll come up with another proposal pretty soonish. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/XWiki-Logo-Challenge-Round-2-tp4872063p4924514.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Sergiu Dumitriu

9:19 p.m.

Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

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Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

-- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/

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Dan Grigore

1:34 p.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

Raluca Stavro wrote:

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Hello, +0.7 to declare 16 the winner and improve it +0.2 to start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 +0.1 to start all over What do you think about this: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-va… ? Raluca. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

-- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

_______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

+1 to start all over

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Thomas Mortagne

1:40 p.m.

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 21:19, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

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Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals

I don't have anything against 16 and i voted for 4 so I'm ok with 1. and 2. but i think i would prefer 3. since i have the feeling all this was rushed too much (really just a feeling i don't have strong arguments).

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I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

-- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

-- Thomas Mortagne

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Thomas Mortagne

1:52 p.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 13:30, Raluca Stavro <raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

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Hello, +0.7 to declare 16 the winner and improve it +0.2 to start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 +0.1 to start all over What do you think about this: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-va… ?

I like this one, i voted for http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposal8Raluc… after all ;)

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Raluca. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN…)=en), we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a black&white version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo… ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

-- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

_______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

-- Thomas Mortagne

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Ecaterina Valica

2:01 p.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 14:30, Raluca Stavro <raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:

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Hello, +0.7 to declare 16 the winner and improve it +0.2 to start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 +0.1 to start all over What do you think about this: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-va… ? Raluca.

The variation is very nice and subtle :P

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On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:

Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: > Hello XWiki Community, > > We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many > thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the > first round of votes (digest here: >

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmN… ),

> > we chose 6 "popular" proposals for the second round: > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . > > The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not > already done for round 1: > * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the > votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each > proposal on > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) > * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) > * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office > * provide samples for light and dark background > * provide a black&white version > * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part > of the logo > * provide a nice "Powered by XWiki" button that goes with the logo > * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current > skin, colibri > > For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already > uploaded here: > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . > For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions > for round 2 as well, > and voters will have to use their imagination in case > any of the required use cases is missing. > > > VOTING: > > You can send your vote on the mailing list (devs(a)xwiki.org or > users(a)xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. > > Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists > ( >

http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistpropo…

> ). > > IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, > please try to also ask yourself the following questions: > > * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, > including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. > * Is it easy to remember and recognize? > * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new > XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order > to better integrate with the logo. > * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be > successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large > poster? > * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark

backgrounds?

* What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on devs(a)xwiki.org, users(a)xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks,

-- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

_______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

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Fabio Mancinelli

5:12 p.m.

New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2

On 04/19/2010 09:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

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Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree.

Ok for option 1. -Fabio

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