14 Feb
2008
14 Feb
'08
1:44 p.m.
Hi all,
Several users have asked me, and me myself find it quite useful, for
this feature and I don't know if it is possible to find any utility
doing this:
Is it possible to search/replace while editing a document with the wiki
editor? Working in WYSIWYG mode, it is at least possible to use the
built in search utility of each browser, but this doesn't work in wiki mode.
Thanks!
Ricardo
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Ricardo Rodríguez
Your EPEC Network ICT Team
14 Feb
14 Feb
1:58 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] searching/replacing within the xwiki edition window
Ricardo,
that's browser dependent... Opera gives you this service (at least
searching).
On Macs OmniWeb gives you it if you open the external text window.
For such intensive changes, using XEclipse application (or plugin)
really helps. It lacks a goto-line but has a search-and-replace.
I agree, however, that XWiki documentation could allocate a space
about the existing solutions for this very common issue. E.g. I know
there are such with BBedit on macs and Texmate...
paul
Le 14 févr. 08 à 13:44, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT
Team a écrit :
Hi all,
Several users have asked me, and me myself find it quite useful, for
this feature and I don't know if it is possible to find any utility
doing this:
Is it possible to search/replace while editing a document with the
wiki
editor? Working in WYSIWYG mode, it is at least possible to use the
built in search utility of each browser, but this doesn't work in
wiki mode.
Thanks!
Ricardo
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Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Ricardo,
that's browser dependent... Opera gives you this service (at least
searching).
On Macs OmniWeb gives you it if you open the external text window.
For such intensive changes, using XEclipse application (or plugin)
really helps. It lacks a goto-line but has a search-and-replace.
I agree, however, that XWiki documentation could allocate a space
about the existing solutions for this very common issue. E.g. I know
there are such with BBedit on macs and Texmate...
paul
Thanks, Paul.
The use of XEclipse will help me a lot. Thanks for pointing it out.
But I think it is not an option for most of our users still reluctant to
use the XWiki environment. And most of them are Internet Explorer,
Firefox and/or Safari users! So Opera or OmniWeb are not an option so far.
I don't get the point of what you are saying about BBedit and TexMate. I
am using both, mainly TextMate in Mac OS X. Do you mean they could be
somehow used with XWiki or XEclipse? Thanks!
Best,
Ricardo
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Ricardo Rodríguez
Your EPEC Network ICT Team
11:51 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] searching/replacing within the xwiki edition window
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Ricardo,
that's browser dependent... Opera gives you this service (at least
searching).
On Macs OmniWeb gives you it if you open the external text window.
Hi Paul,
I've tried both, Opera in Windows and OmniWeb in Mac. I'm impressed with
OmniWeb performance and the search/replace feature of the zoom window.
Thanks for the tip.
Best,
Ricardo
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Ricardo Rodríguez
Your EPEC Network ICT Team
15 Feb
15 Feb
9:16 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] searching/replacing within the xwiki edition window
But I think it is not an option for most of our users
still
reluctant to
use the XWiki environment. And most of them are Internet Explorer,
Firefox and/or Safari users! So Opera or OmniWeb are not an option
so far.
As long as you rely on the default textarea there's nothing you can
do there or?
I wonder if that would not be a topic for the webAPI working group at
W3C... it is a fairly common request I think.
Le 14 févr. 08 à 23:51, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT
Team a écrit :
I've tried both, Opera in Windows and OmniWeb in
Mac. I'm impressed
with
OmniWeb performance and the search/replace feature of the zoom
window.
Thanks for the tip.
Cool.
OmniWeb has so much good feature that I do not find its performance
so good anymore (it's just that of safari).
Among others the pictured-tabs are so fantastic that it really makes
it easy to have dozens of windows open without loosing the
overview... that makes it slow ;-)!
Two other very precious features for developers:
- OmniWeb has a so-called error-log where both the input and output
headers can be presented... that is the only platform having that I
have seen and it has helped me debug a large number of difficult
cases. FireBug does it less good I feel.
- OmniWeb and Opera both can "edit in place": just invoke view
source... you get an editor... and that editor can let you preview.
The advantage ? You are in a browser with the same origin and the
same cookies... so you can experiment something client-side (e.g.
changing a form's action from POST to GET) before actually changing
the server. This also helped me often on badly designed web-siute.
I don't get the point of what you are saying about
BBedit and
TexMate. I
am using both, mainly TextMate in Mac OS X. Do you mean they could be
somehow used with XWiki or XEclipse? Thanks!
I can't find it anymore but I had seen James Strachan blogging about
integrating Textmate for all textareas of a browser (might be it was
Safari). That would bring, e.g., syntax coloring.
paul
4:57 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] searching/replacing within the xwiki edition window
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Perhaps you could find what you/we are looking for here...
http://macstrac.blogspot.com/search?q=TextMate
Cheers!
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Ricardo Rodríguez
Your EPEC Network ICT Team
As long as you rely on the default textarea there's nothing you can do
there or?
I wonder if that would not be a topic for the webAPI working group at
W3C... it is a fairly common request I think.
You are speaking fluently about topics to which I have just arrived a
bunch of hours ago! :-) I do need some time to digest all this new
pieces of information. In fact, I am still digesting previous pieces of
information about other rather interesting XWiki related issues :-)
Simile proyect related ones are my favorites.
I don't know if the webAPI working group could be interested in this
issue, but I think it is worth to create a Jira issue on the topic don't
you think so? I agree about the usefulness of the WYSIWYG editor both as
a XWiki hook for a number of users and as a must for a comfortable
working environment. But at least for us the wiki editor it is by far
much more important. We need users editing code (simple code, but code
anyway), and for this task the integration of TextMate or whatever other
editor available for Linux, Windows and Mac platforms is the key importance.
Two other very precious features for developers:
- OmniWeb has a so-called error-log where both the input and output
headers can be presented... that is the only platform having that I
have seen and it has helped me debug a large number of difficult
cases. FireBug does it less good I feel.
- OmniWeb and Opera both can "edit in place": just invoke view
source... you get an editor... and that editor can let you preview.
The advantage ? You are in a browser with the same origin and the same
cookies... so you can experiment something client-side (e.g. changing
a form's action from POST to GET) before actually changing the server.
This also helped me often on badly designed web-siute.
Simply great! I've been playing with Firebug for some time now, but the
use of OmniWeb is much more intuitive. Although perhaps without the
previous Firebug experience I'd not reach this conclusion. We try to get
a balance between FOSS and commercial software here. Firefox is a great
initiative. So we have a kind of "philosophical" doubt here. I am
already using OmniGraffle following Vincent's advice then it seems to me
that Omni Group products are going to our commercial basket. I am far
curios about OmniFocus "peace of mind" :-)
I don't
get the point of what you are saying about BBedit and TexMate. I
am using both, mainly TextMate in Mac OS X. Do you mean they could be
somehow used with XWiki or XEclipse? Thanks!
I can't find it anymore but I had seen James Strachan blogging about
integrating Textmate for all textareas of a browser (might be it was
Safari). That would bring, e.g., syntax coloring.
paul
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