Hi! Eric Tse wrote: XWiki is not only a wiki: it is a complete and powerful Java based development framework. I arrived here from MediaWiki looking for access management and I found much, much more than this. I think it is worth you give it a try! Even more: if after playing for a while in the sandbox (http://xoffice.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/), or asking and using your own wiki in MyWiki community farm or Netcipia, or installing your own standalone installation, you know how to set up an application server and a supported RDBMS, install and give a try to the last snapshot to feel the newest improvements! Don't forget to use the Create 200 Dummy Users snippet available at... http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/Create200DummyUsersSnippet ... and play for a while with Users and Groups administration. Out of the box, XWiki features an amazingly powerful rights management system. Of course control who can read or edit a given document of a part of it is not a big issue for XWiki administrators. As for theming. Even though I think teaming is better than theming working with XWiki :-) as many other development areas, it has also evolved greatly in the last months. Some new concepts has been recently introduced, for instance check the Skin Extensions Plugin (http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Plugins/SkinExtensionsPlugin). Right now is really easy to customized colours and logos, and modify any UI characteristic by using Firefox Firebug to track the relevant CSS XWiki code. Perhaps if you only look for a "classical" wiki, theming is not the most friendly XWiki feature for you. But don't forget this: it is completely scalable, so you should want to forget a bit about theming for a while being sure that what you see in our UI is or will be easily customizable in a near future. XWiki is what it reads in its portal's homepage: "The XWiki project offers both a generic platform for developing collaborative applications using the wiki paradigm and products developed on top of it." XWiki Enterprise should be the product you are looking for, but this is only the top of the iceberg. I'm not able to compare the use of flat-files vs RDBMS (SQL is just the standard language that allows you to query such databases). BUT, once again, don't forget that XWiki is more than a wiki. It uses a RDBMS to hold a complex object-oriented structure. You can also use its SQL plugin to query local or remote RDBMS tables, but also can its API methods to design complex queries using HQL (Hibernate Query Language) or XWQL (XWiki Query Language) More: each XWiki document could be considered a database on its own! It could be composed of an unlimited number of objects + plain or more or less structured text. Sticks with XWiki and won't only create a classical, fast and full featured wiki but discover a full and funny universe of great possibilities. And, most important of all: you will meet a great community and development team! Just my two cents! Ricardo -- Ricardo Rodríguez CTO eBioTIC. Life Sciences, Data Modeling and Information Management Systems _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Cool cool. Am I able to customize it enough so it looks like an actual website and not a wiki? (Wikipedia style)

- Eric On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Ricardo Rodriguez [eBioTIC.] < ricardo.rodriguez(a)ebiotic.net&gt; wrote: > Hi! > > Eric Tse wrote: >> Hey guys, just subscribed to this list. >> >> I'm currently stuck between two softwares: XWiki and Foswiki. >> >> What I'm looking for is: >> Speed/Performance >> Access control (Guests can only read and not modify, certain users can >> modify) >> Good theming/Easy theming. >> An overall good wiki with user-friendly UI. >> >> Foswiki is flatfile and xwiki is SQL based. I hear that SQL is generally >> better, is that the case? Foswiki seems to be pretty fast even if it is >> flatfile. >> >> Thanks :) >> >> > > XWiki is not only a wiki: it is a complete and powerful Java based > development framework. I arrived here from MediaWiki looking for access > management and I found much, much more than this. I think it is worth > you give it a try! Even more: if after playing for a while in the > sandbox (http://xoffice.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/), or asking > and using your own wiki in MyWiki community farm or Netcipia, or > installing your own standalone installation, you know how to set up an > application server and a supported RDBMS, install and give a try to the > last snapshot to feel the newest improvements! Don't forget to use the > Create 200 Dummy Users snippet available at... > > http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/Create200DummyUsersSnippet > > ... and play for a while with Users and Groups administration. Out of > the box, XWiki features an amazingly powerful rights management system. > Of course control who can read or edit a given document of a part of it > is not a big issue for XWiki administrators. > > As for theming. Even though I think teaming is better than theming > working with XWiki :-) as many other development areas, it has also > evolved greatly in the last months. Some new concepts has been recently > introduced, for instance check the Skin Extensions Plugin > (http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Plugins/SkinExtensionsPlugin). > Right now is really easy to customized colours and logos, and modify any > UI characteristic by using Firefox Firebug to track the relevant CSS > XWiki code. Perhaps if you only look for a "classical" wiki, theming is > not the most friendly XWiki feature for you. But don't forget this: it > is completely scalable, so you should want to forget a bit about theming > for a while being sure that what you see in our UI is or will be easily > customizable in a near future. > > XWiki is what it reads in its portal's homepage: "The XWiki project > offers both a generic platform for developing collaborative applications > using the wiki paradigm and products developed on top of it." XWiki > Enterprise should be the product you are looking for, but this is only > the top of the iceberg. > > I'm not able to compare the use of flat-files vs RDBMS (SQL is just the > standard language that allows you to query such databases). BUT, once > again, don't forget that XWiki is more than a wiki. It uses a RDBMS to > hold a complex object-oriented structure. You can also use its SQL > plugin to query local or remote RDBMS tables, but also can its API > methods to design complex queries using HQL (Hibernate Query Language) > or XWQL (XWiki Query Language) > > More: each XWiki document could be considered a database on its own! It > could be composed of an unlimited number of objects + plain or more or > less structured text. > > Sticks with XWiki and won't only create a classical, fast and full > featured wiki but discover a full and funny universe of great > possibilities. And, most important of all: you will meet a great > community and development team! > > > Just my two cents! > > Ricardo > >> - Eric