19 Dec
2012
19 Dec
'12
8:22 a.m.
Hi, All!
Clean XEM 4.3. Default page set. I wan't to set multilanguage support.
Multilingual: YES
Supported languages : en, ru, uk, fr
Default Language : ru
After I click on save, XWiki takes default language from browser and shows me uk as
default, ignoring default language settings.
Moreover, there is no languages available, besides en (as shown on the picture
http://awesomescreenshot.com/04cqa3uc7 )
Any ideas how to fix it?
Kind regards,
Dmitry
19 Dec
19 Dec
10:15 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Haru <haru_mamburu(a)mail.ru> wrote:
Hi, All!
Clean XEM 4.3. Default page set. I wan't to set multilanguage support.
Multilingual: YES
Supported languages : en, ru, uk, fr
Default Language : ru
After I click on save, XWiki takes default language from browser and shows me uk as
default, ignoring default language settings.
Moreover, there is no languages available, besides en (as shown on the picture
http://awesomescreenshot.com/04cqa3uc7 )
Any ideas how to fix it?
First of all, in your screenshot the default language is set to en.
Then, you need to understand the distinction between the language of
the UI (menu text, button labels, notification messages, etc.) and the
document language (the language of the content of a document). The
list of available languages you are referring to, displayed on the top
right side of the page, represents the list of languages the content
of the current document has been translated to. In this particular
case, the content of XWiki.XWikiPreferences document has been
translated only in English, which is normal because this page contains
code, and code shouldn't be translated.
If you create a new wiki page, you'll see that there is a panel that
lets you translate the content in any of the supported languages. Once
you translate the content you'll see the languages listed in the top
right corner.
Hope this helps,
Marius
Kind regards,
Dmitry
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10:34 a.m.
Thanks a lot for help, Marius. Yes, I made screenshot "english" to be
readable.
It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in
abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings?
Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 11:15 от Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>om>:
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Haru <
haru_mamburu(a)mail.ru > wrote:
Kind regards,
Dmitry
Hi, All!
Clean XEM 4.3. Default page set. I wan't to set multilanguage support.
Multilingual: YES
Supported languages : en, ru, uk, fr
Default Language : ru
After I click on save, XWiki takes default language from browser and shows me uk as
default, ignoring default language settings.
Moreover, there is no languages available, besides en (as shown on the picture
http://awesomescreenshot.com/04cqa3uc7 )
Any ideas how to fix it?
First of all, in your screenshot the default language is set to en.
Then, you need to understand the distinction between the language of
the UI (menu text, button labels, notification messages, etc.) and the
document language (the language of the content of a document). The
list of available languages you are referring to, displayed on the top
right side of the page, represents the list of languages the content
of the current document has been translated to. In this particular
case, the content of XWiki.XWikiPreferences document has been
translated only in English, which is normal because this page contains
code, and code shouldn't be translated.
If you create a new wiki page, you'll see that there is a panel that
lets you translate the content in any of the supported languages. Once
you translate the content you'll see the languages listed in the top
right corner.
Hope this helps,
Marius
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Dmitry
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7:40 p.m.
On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote:
It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into
browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language
settings?
There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault
Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu
9:29 p.m.
Thanks a lot, Sergiu!
The problem was following: default language is set in UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was
ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected behaviour? If it's expected, why do
we have default language in UI?
Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have different default languages in workspaces,
so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best option, IMHO.
Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org>rg>:
On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote:
Kind regards,
Dmitry
It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls
into browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language
settings?
There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault
Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu
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10:55 p.m.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Haru <haru_mamburu(a)mail.ru> wrote:
Thanks a lot, Sergiu!
The problem was following: default language is set in
UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected
behaviour? If it's expected, why do we have default language in UI?
I think the default language you set in the Localization section of
the administration refers to the document content not to the UI. It is
the default content language when you create a new document.
Hope this helps,
Marius
Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have
different default languages in workspaces, so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best
option, IMHO.
Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org>rg>:
On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote:
Kind regards,
Dmitry
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls
into browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language
settings?
There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault
Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu
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20 Dec
20 Dec
2:07 a.m.
On 12/19/2012 04:55 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Haru
<haru_mamburu(a)mail.ru> wrote:
Almost. To be more precise, it's the default language to fall back when:
- the language(s) requested browser are not available
- a document doesn't specify its default language
When creating a new document, the default language is the current
context language.
But it is NOT the default language that users will see unless they
explicitly select another one. The setting I mentioned is the one that
moves the behavior closer to what you expect.
Thanks a lot, Sergiu!
The problem was following: default language is
set in UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected
behaviour? If it's expected, why do we have default language in UI?
I think the default language you set in the Localization section of
the administration refers to the document content not to the UI. It is
the default content language when you create a new document. Hope this helps,
Marius
> Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have different default languages in
workspaces, so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best option, IMHO.
>
>
> Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org>rg>:
>> On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote:
>>> It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language
in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings?
>>>
>>
>> There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault
>>
>> Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki.
>>
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
2:10 a.m.
On 12/19/2012 03:29 PM, Haru wrote:
Thanks a lot, Sergiu!
The problem was following: default language is set in UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was
ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected behaviour? If it's expected, why do
we have default language in UI?
It's the expected behavior, at least with the way translations work at
the moment. I'm not happy with the current mechanism, but changing it
requires a lot of refactoring.
Configured default wiki language is different from document default
language, which can be set for each document. See my other reply for
what the default wiki language actually does.
Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have
different default languages in workspaces, so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best
option, IMHO.
I agree, this should be a setting configurable in each wiki, or even space.
Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org>rg>:
> On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote:
>> It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in
abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings?
>>
>
> There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault
>
> Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
2:38 a.m.
Thanks a lot for help, Sergiu!
Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 20:10 от Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org>rg>:
On 12/19/2012 03:29 PM, Haru wrote:
Kind regards,
Dmitry
Thanks a lot, Sergiu!
The problem was following: default language is set in UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was
ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected behaviour? If it's expected, why do
we have default language in UI?
It's the expected behavior, at least with the way translations work at
the moment. I'm not happy with the current mechanism, but changing it
requires a lot of refactoring.
Configured default wiki language is different from document default
language, which can be set for each document. See my other reply for
what the default wiki language actually does.
Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have
different default languages in workspaces, so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best
option, IMHO.
I agree, this should be a setting configurable in each wiki, or even space.
Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu < sergiu(a)xwiki.org >:
> On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote:
>> It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in
abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings?
>>
>
> There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault
>
> Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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