8 Jun
2010
8 Jun
'10
11:19 a.m.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It will
if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right set
at
current level this column could even precise what
inheritance has been
overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
Denis.
Hi Denis,
"Something" like this:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space Yes, "something" like that. I would have
expected a "back to basic" button
in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid
duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the
advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper level
in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes over
the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic"
button
in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid
duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's
variables (if it has advanced type)? I mean if the user is advanced, all the
rows will be presented in advances?
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up in
the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Thanks,
Caty
8 Jun
8 Jun
12:46 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide the
basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will
helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
I found the result really well suited now. There is just some improvement in
color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get
approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our
reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread
could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the
size of this thread could be pushing back.
WDYT ?
Denis
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced
button, like you have done.
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right
set
> at
> > current level this column could even precise what inheritance has
been
overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
Denis.
Hi Denis,
"Something" like this:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space Yes, "something" like that. I would
have expected a "back to basic"
button
in place of "advanced, and the removal of
the basic interface to avoid
duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the
advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper
level
in the column explaining inheritance. And put the
highlight of changes
over
the rest of the row (includes name and
inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic"
button
in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid
duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's
variables (if it has advanced type)? I mean if the user is advanced, all the
rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user"
in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and
will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is
great to see changes up in
the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep
complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Thanks,
Caty
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3:41 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide
the
basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will
helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right
set
> at
> > current level this column could even precise what inheritance has
been
> > > overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
> > >
> > > Denis.
> >
> >
> > Hi Denis,
> >
> > "Something" like this:
> > Yes, "something" like that. I would
have expected a "back to basic"
button
in place of "advanced, and the removal of
the basic interface to avoid
duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the
advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper
level
in the column explaining inheritance. And put the
highlight of changes
over
the rest of the row (includes name and
inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic"
button
in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid
duplicating basic rights
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's
variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced
button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the
rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user"
in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and
will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view
is great to see changes up
in
the table, where you don't care the advanced
status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep
complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
I found the result really well suited now. There is
just some improvement
in
color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get
approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our
reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread
could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the
size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters:
collapsed:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
expanded:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
What do you think?
Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable
have more than one
filter per a column. Anyway this will be a custom livetable,
because we also
need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect
(ex. to select multiple rights)?
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the
setting of another right (example: admin means implicit
view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter
option be useful or it is too much?
Thanks,
Caty
WDYT ?
Denis
Thanks,
Caty
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5:14 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 15:41, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
avoid
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
user"
Not sure we really need all these. What is important for me is:
- local, global, all user type, with local by default
- local, inherited, implied right
- user/group name filtering
The rest could be convenient, but it also takes unnecessary horizontal
space, which is annoying IMO.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For
right
set
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
> >
> >
>
> > Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to
basic"
> button
> > in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to > at
> > current level this column could even precise what inheritance has
been
> > > overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
> > >
> > > Denis.
> >
> >
> > Hi Denis,
> >
> > "Something" like this:
> > > > duplicating basic rights. Maybe the
menu should be horizontal in the
> > advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper
> level
> > in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of
changes
> over
> > the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
> >
>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
>
> About:
>
> > I would have expected a "back to basic" button
> > in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to
avoid
duplicating basic rights
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's
variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced
button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the
rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced in their profile, will not be presented the
advanced interface link, and
will never see extended rights.
> I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes
up
in
deep
the table, where you don't care the advanced
status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing complex stuffs
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide
the
basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will
helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
I found the result really well suited now. There
is just some improvement
in
color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get
approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of
our
reflexion, and containing only the final
proposal) and than a vote thread
could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the
size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters:
collapsed:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
expanded:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
What do you think?
Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable
have more than one
filter per a column.
No problem if we use only the .js without de livetable macro.
Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we
also
need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Yes, it will probably be so.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we
enable multiselect
(ex. to select multiple rights)?
I have made recent fixes for that in the livetable.js, so this is not a
problem.
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the
rights that come from the
setting of another right (example: admin means implicit
view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter
option be useful or it is too much?
Doesn't this also include implicit settings when no right has been set
anywhere ?
Denis
Thanks,
Caty
--
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SOFTEC sa - CEO
eGuilde sarl - CTO
WDYT ?
Denis
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9 Jun
9 Jun
3:56 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
Hey guys,
Let me apologize in advance for asking what is probably the dumbest
question you've seen in a while.
I'm hosting a wiki: noddle.myxwiki.org on your community farm. I've been
playing around with the
platform, trying to get a feel for the software, and right now the site
is currently a disaster.
Anyways. I'm not sure why, but the login/logout button is missing from
the main (noddle.myxwiki.org)
page. I'm not sure if I have to manually insert a link somewhere, or if
it's an artifact of me messing
around with the permissions, but I've spent many hours trying to come up
with a solution that's better
than logging into the myxwiki.org page and navigating to noddle...
Thanks in advance.
Best,
Philip Brunetti
4:41 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
It would appear that you have set up a custom skin and accidently removed the button.
http://noddle.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/?skin=toucan
shows the login button.
Caleb
Philip Brunetti wrote:
Hey guys,
Let me apologize
No need, the problems which only happen on a Tuesday every other month are the hard ones
;)
in advance for asking what is probably the dumbest
question you've seen in a while.
I'm hosting a wiki: noddle.myxwiki.org on your community farm. I've been
playing around with the
platform, trying to get a feel for the software, and right now the site
is currently a disaster.
Anyways. I'm not sure why, but the login/logout button is missing from
the main (noddle.myxwiki.org)
page. I'm not sure if I have to manually insert a link somewhere, or if
it's an artifact of me messing
around with the permissions, but I've spent many hours trying to come up
with a solution that's better
than logging into the myxwiki.org page and navigating to noddle...
Thanks in advance.
Best,
Philip Brunetti
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9:25 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
It would appear that you have set up a custom skin and
accidently removed the button.
http://noddle.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/?skin=toucan
shows the login button.
Caleb
Philip Brunetti wrote:
And next time please create a new thread and don't hijack existing ones ;)
Thanks
-Vincent
Hey guys,
Let me apologize
No need, the problems which only happen on a Tuesday every other month are the hard ones
;)
> in advance for asking what is probably the dumbest
> question you've seen in a while.
>
> I'm hosting a wiki: noddle.myxwiki.org on your community farm. I've been
> playing around with the
> platform, trying to get a feel for the software, and right now the site
> is currently a disaster.
>
> Anyways. I'm not sure why, but the login/logout button is missing from
> the main (noddle.myxwiki.org)
> page. I'm not sure if I have to manually insert a link somewhere, or if
> it's an artifact of me messing
> around with the permissions, but I've spent many hours trying to come up
> with a solution that's better
> than logging into the myxwiki.org page and navigating to noddle...
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Best,
>
> Philip Brunetti
12:36 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
> >
> > > > It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For
right
> > set
> > > > at
> > > > > current level this column could even precise what inheritance
been
> > > overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
> > >
> > > Denis.
> >
> >
> > Hi Denis,
> >
> > "Something" like this:
> >
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
> >
> >
>
> > Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to
basic"
> button
> > in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to > > > advanced interface, I do not know.
Also add some hyperlinks to
upper
>
level
> > in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of
changes
> > over
> > > the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
> > >
> >
> > >
> About:
>
> > I would have expected a "back to basic" button
> > in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to
avoid
>
duplicating basic rights
>
> >
> > This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user
profile's
> > variables (if it has advanced type)?
>
>
> No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the
advanced
button,
like you have done.
user"
> in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, I mean if the user is advanced, all the
rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced will
never see extended rights.
> I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes
up
in
deep
> complex stuffs
>
>
> >
> >
> > > WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
> > >
> >
> > it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
> >
>
> Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to the table, where you don't care the advanced
status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing > the
> basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it
will
helps in
receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
> I found the result really well suited now. There is just some > in
> color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we
get
approval
for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of
our
> reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote > could be appropriate to receive feedback
from other committers, since
the
size of
this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters:
collapsed:
expanded:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
What do you think?
Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
Not sure we really need all these. What is important for me is:
- local, global, all user type, with local by default
- local, inherited, implied right
- user/group name filtering
The rest could be convenient, but it also takes unnecessary horizontal
space, which is annoying IMO.
IMO, when no right has been set is a special case, the Default values. We
could see it as implicit, but actually I think they are more like inherited
(from the code values :P ).
Another question: The local source of inheritance (if a right is allowed to
anyone else at the same level, it is implicitly disallowed for any others)
is gonna be seen as implicit or locally set?
For example allow for evalica on view right is going on the "locally set",
but implicit deny on view right for UnregisteredUsers and RegisteredUsers is
going where? (locally set or implicit)
Practical is only for this level, so it's local. But it is not set
explicitly by the user, so it must by implicit.
Thanks,
Caty
From an implementation point of view, can a
livetable have more than one
filter per a column.
No problem if we use only the .js without de livetable macro.
Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because
we also
need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Yes, it will probably be so.
Also, from an implementation point of view,
should we enable multiselect
(ex. to select multiple rights)?
I have made recent fixes for that in the livetable.js, so this is not a
problem.
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to
the rights that come from the
setting of another right (example: admin means implicit
view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this
filter
option be useful or it is too much?
Doesn't this also include implicit settings when no right has been set
anywhere ?
Denis
2:02 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
Some more comments:
- The last icon-labeled field (currently depicted by a key) could be
"Other rights", not "Advanced"
- The key does not suggest "other rights" (nor advanced) to me. Maybe
use a word instead of an icon ("More..", "Application rights")?
- I'm not sure the folder with a user in it is a good representation for
a group. Usually a labeled folder stands for a space with a certain
purpose. Why not use the group.gif icon (two users)?
- I propose to put an explanatory word next to each icon in the
dropdown. There is enough room for it and I think it would help a lot.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
5:28 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
I fixed some interaction issues. There are more to do, but I think
that this is enough for now. We will implement it right if this
proposal will be accepted/voted.
I tested the interaction only on FF 3.6.3.
Raluca.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide
the
basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will
helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right
set
> at
> > current level this column could even precise what inheritance has
been
> > > overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
> > >
> > > Denis.
> >
> >
> > Hi Denis,
> >
> > "Something" like this:
> > Yes, "something" like that. I would
have expected a "back to basic"
button
in place of "advanced, and the removal of
the basic interface to avoid
duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the
advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper
level
in the column explaining inheritance. And put the
highlight of changes
over
the rest of the row (includes name and
inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic"
button
in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid
duplicating basic rights
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's
variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced
button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the
rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user"
in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and
will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view
is great to see changes up
in
the table, where you don't care the advanced
status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep
complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
I found the result really well suited now. There
is just some improvement
in
color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get
approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our
reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread
could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the
size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters:
collapsed:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
expanded:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
What do you think?
Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable have more than one
filter per a column. Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we also
need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect
(ex. to select multiple rights)?
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the
setting of another right (example: admin means implicit
view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter
option be useful or it is too much?
Thanks,
Caty
WDYT ?
Denis
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New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Raluca Stavro <raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Spac
Raluca.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
I fixed some interaction issues. There are more to do, but I think
that this is enough for now. We will implement it right if this
proposal will be accepted/voted.
I tested the interaction only on FF 3.6.3.
Raluca.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > > It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right
set
> > at
> > > current level this column could even precise what inheritance has
been
> > > overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
> > >
> > > Denis.
> >
> >
> > Hi Denis,
> >
> > "Something" like this:
> >
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
>
>
> Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to
basic"
button
> in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid
> duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the
> advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper
level
> in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes
over
> the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
> I would have expected a "back to basic" button
> in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid
> duplicating basic rights
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's
variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced
button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the
rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user"
in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and
will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view
is great to see changes up
in
the table, where you don't care the advanced
status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep
complex stuffs
> WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
>
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide
the
basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will
helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
I found the result really well suited now. There
is just some improvement
in
color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get
approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our
reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread
could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the
size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters:
collapsed:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
expanded:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
What do you think?
Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable have more than one
filter per a column. Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we also
need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect
(ex. to select multiple rights)?
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the
setting of another right (example: admin means implicit
view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter
option be useful or it is too much?
Thanks,
Caty
WDYT ?
Denis
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Thanks,
Caty
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5:31 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Raluca Stavro <raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Raluca Stavro
<raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
(Wrong copy-paste)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Raluca.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Spac On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
I fixed some interaction issues. There are more to do, but I think
that this is enough for now. We will implement it right if this
proposal will be accepted/voted.
I tested the interaction only on FF 3.6.3.
Raluca.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right
> set
> > > at
> > > > current level this column could even precise what inheritance has
> been
> > > > overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
> > > >
> > > > Denis.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Denis,
> > >
> > > "Something" like this:
> > >
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
> >
> >
>
> > Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to
basic"
> button
> > in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid
> > duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the
> > advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper
> level
> > in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes
> over
> > the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
> >
>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
>
> About:
>
> > I would have expected a "back to basic" button
> > in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid
> > duplicating basic rights
> >
>
>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
>
> This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's
> variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced
button, like you have done.
> I mean if the user is advanced, all the
> rows will be presented in advances?
>
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user"
in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and
will never see extended rights.
> I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up
in
> the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
>
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep
complex stuffs
>
>
> > WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
> >
>
> it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
>
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide
the
basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will
helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
Raluca.
I found the result really well suited now. There
is just some improvement
in
color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get
approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our
reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread
could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the
size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters:
collapsed:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
expanded:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Propos…
What do you think?
Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable have more than one
filter per a column. Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we also
need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect
(ex. to select multiple rights)?
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the
setting of another right (example: admin means implicit
view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter
option be useful or it is too much?
Thanks,
Caty
WDYT ?
Denis
> Thanks,
> Caty
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New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Thanks Raluca. Tomorrow I will send the mail with the proposal, after I make
some changes Sergiu suggested.
Caty
10 Jun
10 Jun
9:15 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
This is better, but the tooltips stay while the menu is open. (I have check
Safari not FF)
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 19:11, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Thanks Raluca. Tomorrow I will send the mail with the proposal, after I
make
some changes Sergiu suggested.
By the way, I think after reviewing Raluca improvements that the "Advanced:"
title is not require, and just eat up some useful space.
If you agree, I propose to have it removed.
Denis
Caty
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