Hi Caty,
sorry for the delay answering, I got reminded of this email while working on
something else and thought I'll give my 2 cents as well.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 08:47, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
"Simple/Advanced" mode definition
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/PageEditing#HSimpleandAdv…
After discussing Action Menu Improvements part 2 (
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2
)
we changed the position of "Access rights" from "Edit" submenu to
"Page"
submenu. Until now, changes done by "Advanced" mode were located only in
"Edit" submenu.
A. The question is: what other items do you think should go under
"Simple"/"Advanced" mode? Do we keep the same items? Do we add more?
Do we
simplify?
I think Simple/Advanced was a good first step but that it doesn't match
actual use of XWiki closely enough. The distinction in 3 tiers
(User/Admin/Developer) sounds better to me in this regard.
B. Another idea is to change "Simple"/"Advanced" mode into
"User"/"Developer"/"Admin" in the structure we also have the
documentation
written.
After thinking a bit about it, I think this would be the best option. I
think the distinction should be as follows :
- User: as little options as possible (maybe even less than right now ->
what's the point of letting users do a page XAR export when they can't
import it or view page source when they're sent straight to WYSIWYG
edition?)
- Admin: a bit more choice (wiki/WYSIWYG/XAR export) and access to wiki /
space admin and page access rights
- Developer: everything
Obs1. The problem with menus is that they don't rely only on these modes,
but also on the rights the users has to do some
actions (like edit, delete,
admin).
You're right about this, but I don't think those are incompatible. You can
say that delete / rename should be displayed to User unless they don't have
the right to do those actions.
Obs2. The ideal way for this topic would be to let administrators decide
what goes into what mode, but even like that, we
should still have some
standards values for the modes.
Having 3 modes with standard values would be a great start. We can always
see about making this configurable later.
I also agree with Thibaut on making the top line more understandable,
especially in single-wiki mode or when the user isn't expected to know that
her wiki is part of a farm -> we should find a way to make the "wiki" menu
easier to understand.
Thanks,
Caty
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