26 Nov
2015
26 Nov
'15
8 p.m.
HI all
One of the key concepts of a wiki is its easy for everyone to edit. There
are various wiki syntaxs - perhaps the most popular being Mediawiki - and
all of them have a goal of making it easy for users to write in the
specific syntax, without the need to know html.
So, one of the most basic features of a wiki, CMS, and the web, is linking.
In Html a user has to write
- a
- href - the user has to know if it is relative or absolute
- link text
Its not a lot, but its still too much for non technical people.
In a normal wiki a user just writes
[[MyExamplePage]]
This is so simple that anyone can do it!
In XWiki (and I found this out by using the wysiwyg editor)
[[MyExamplePage>>doc:MyExamplePage.WebHome]]
What is doc? And WebHome? And >>? And whats with the dots, semi colons?
As a technical person I can probably figure this out. But there is no way I
could sell my management on this. Non technical people will never
understand this.
And yes, non-tech people can use the wysiwyg. But then why use a wiki? Why
not just use a CMS.
The
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Anton Hughes
26 Nov
26 Nov
8:18 p.m.
Hi,
On 26 Nov 2015 at 20:00:54, Anton Hughes (ah@tradeworks.io(mailto:ah@tradeworks.io))
wrote:
HI all
One of the key concepts of a wiki is its easy for everyone to edit. There
are various wiki syntaxs - perhaps the most popular being Mediawiki - and
all of them have a goal of making it easy for users to write in the
specific syntax, without the need to know html.
So, one of the most basic features of a wiki, CMS, and the web, is linking.
In Html a user has to write
- a
- href - the user has to know if it is relative or absolute
- link text
Its not a lot, but its still too much for non technical people.
In a normal wiki a user just writes
[[MyExamplePage]]
[[MyExamplePage]] works in XWiki too :)
This is so simple that anyone can do it!
Why don’t you try it on xwiki?
In XWiki (and I found this out by using the wysiwyg
editor)
[[MyExamplePage>>doc:MyExamplePage.WebHome]]
What is doc? And WebHome? And >>? And whats with the dots, semi colons?
See http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/XWikiSyntax
BTW XWiki supports several syntaxes, see http://rendering.xwiki.org/
As a technical person I can probably figure this out.
But there is no way I
could sell my management on this. Non technical people will never
understand this.
And yes, non-tech people can use the wysiwyg. But then why use a wiki? Why
not just use a CMS.
If the only difference you see is the markup then you’re missing a lot :)
See http://www.xwiki.com/fr/comparatifs/xwiki-vs-cms for example.
Thanks
-Vincent
Anton Hughes
8:32 p.m.
On 26 November 2015 at 20:18, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
If the only difference you see is the markup then
you’re missing a lot :)
See http://www.xwiki.com/fr/comparatifs/xwiki-vs-cms for example.
This document puts a lot of focus on collaboration - which I agree is an
important aspect.
However, as I have tried to point out, its easier to write html than Xwiki
syntax.
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Anton Hughes
8:36 p.m.
On 26 Nov 2015 at 20:33:23, Anton Hughes (ah(a)tradeworks.io) wrote:
On 26 November 2015 at 20:18, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
If the only difference you see is the markup then you’re missing a lot :)
See http://www.xwiki.com/fr/comparatifs/xwiki-vs-cms for example.
This document puts a lot of focus on collaboration - which I agree is an important
aspect.
However, as I have tried to point out, its easier to write html than Xwiki syntax.
I think I’m going to stop the discussion here since that clearly is a false assumption and
you’d be hard-pressed to find a single user agreeing with you on this.
BTW xwiki does support using HTML as an input syntax as I’ve already pointed out too in a
previous answer linking to http://rendering.xwiki.org that lists all supported syntaxes.
Thanks and have a good evening
-Vincent
Anton Hughes
2 Dec
2 Dec
10:43 a.m.
Hi Anton,
Perhaps WikiWords Extension
<http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/WikiWord+Transformation>
is something you can look at?
@devs: with the recent changes with all the Nested Pages, does the
WikiWords Extension
<http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/WikiWord+Transformation>
still work?
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11:05 a.m.
Hi Hamster,
On 2 Dec 2015 at 10:43:36, Hamster (teunham@hotmail.com(mailto:teunham@hotmail.com))
wrote:
Hi Anton,
Perhaps WikiWords Extension
is something you can look at?
@devs: with the recent changes with all the Nested Pages, does the
WikiWords Extension
still work?
It’s not impacted. It only recognizes wiki words and create a reference to a page named
after the wikiword so it’s not related to NS
Thanks
-Vincent
3:14 p.m.
Thanks for clearing that up!
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3:50 p.m.
How does the WikiWord actually work?
How can I write the word (the page name) which is from the nested space?
Does it have some configuration for custom words, e.g. mapping word or
expression to the page or external link?
Thank you.
On 2 December 2015 at 15:14, Hamster <teunham(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up!
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4:44 p.m.
Hi Miroslav,
On 2 Dec 2015 at 15:50:48, Miroslav Galajda
(miroslav.galajda@gmail.com(mailto:miroslav.galajda@gmail.com)) wrote:
How does the WikiWord actually work?
How can I write the word (the page name) which is from the nested space?
Does it have some configuration for custom words, e.g. mapping word or
expression to the page or external link?
It doesn’t work like this right now. When a wikiword is found, the target page is located
in the current space with the name of the wikiword.
For example, if I’m on Sandbox.SomePage and I put in content:
"
Hello BeautifulWiki
“
then BeautifulWiki will point to page Sandbox.BeautifulWiki
Thanks
-Vincent
Thank you.
On 2 December 2015 at 15:14, Hamster wrote:
> Thanks for clearing that up!
>
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