8 Apr
2013
8 Apr
'13
10:35 a.m.
Hi,
We introduced the Activity Stream macro in XE 2.6
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Activity+Macro
We are investigating ways to improve our Activity Stream, but in order to
do that we would want to know your feedback about it (both from a
technology and an user experience pov):
- Is Activity Stream a macro you use?
- What features you most miss about it? Maybe filtering? Maybe pagination?
- Would you like to see more event types, like events generated by
applications?
- Are you using the "Send Message" functionality?
- Other opinions about it.
Your feedback will help us improve the macro by adding needed functionality
and not breaking used one.
I'll gather ideas on
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamFeed…
Thanks,
Caty
8 Apr
8 Apr
11:11 a.m.
Hi,
My feedback below:
2013/4/8 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
Hi,
We introduced the Activity Stream macro in XE 2.6
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Activity+Macro
We are investigating ways to improve our Activity Stream, but in order to
do that we would want to know your feedback about it (both from a
technology and an user experience pov):
- Is Activity Stream a macro you use?
It's just there, on my home page, but I never used the macro somewhere
else. I don't know exactly why, but I would say mainly because of
limitations (filtering...) and performance issues I had with it at some
time in the past, so I wasn't willing to put this macro everywhere.
- What features you most miss about it? Maybe
filtering? Maybe pagination?
I miss both. In my case, my mail archive app generates a large bunch of
pages (for topics and mails) that crowd the activity stream. Ideally, I
would like to:
- have a stream that would show only mail archive events. Could be all
pages events from mail archive user (as there's a dedicated user
creating/updating the pages), but may be even better to allow filtering on
... specific objects ? Would be the only way to differentiate a topic from
a mail in my case, allowing to show only topics, or only mails. I believe
that that may bring some performance issues though.
- have a stream that shows everything, except events from my mail archive
- have possibility to differentiate stream events depending on their "type"
(ie, show mails/topics events with a specific icon, different than the one
of standard pages).
- pagination seems less essential but would be very nice to have (if it
looks like the livetables pagination it would be even better). Talking
about that, livetable-style filtering would be nice to have (ie, enter a
keyword and have the stream filtered on it, based on name, author, ...).
- have possibility to remove an entry directly from the stream display. In
my case, when I change smtp password in xwiki prefs, the "see changes" of
related event shows both my old and new password in the diff view ... as
I'm not the only admin, it's a bit unsecure, so I'd like to remove that (my
example is more an issue on the diff view, I did not thoroughly check).
- have possibility to filter what streams get tracked, ie not only filter
the display (from the macro), but also prevent some events from being
tracked by activity stream. I must admit that maybe it's already possible,
I did not check.
- have some "purge" features and parameters available from xwiki admin, in
order to avoid having to perform them manually from db. For example, say
"keep only last 50 events for all pages" or "keep only last event for page
X.Y" or "keep only 1 event per day/month" etc..., and a purge job in
scheduler.
- Would you like to see more event types, like events
generated by
applications?
- Are you using the "Send Message" functionality?
I merely tested by sending a message to someone. It seems my message can
only be seen from his profile, so he never saw it. I think the feature
would be more interesting if new messages you received were displayed
clearly when you log in (through some popup for example, or in some area
near page content). Would be really nice to have it displayed in "real
time" (ie, I'm logged, someone sends me a message, it appears in my current
browser tab).
- Other opinions about it.
Your feedback will help us improve the macro by adding needed functionality
and not breaking used one.
I'll gather ideas on
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamFeed…
Thanks,
Caty
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2:04 p.m.
Hi Caty,
What would help for my own usage:
* Good performance (main showstopper right now)
* Ability to easily see more events by default on the home page (with a "See
More" button that expands without reloading the page). I think this is what you call
pagination.
* Grouped events, for example for XAR imports or extension installation (do we get events
for that in the AS btw?)
* More events, like Rename event. A rename event should be a grouping event, grouping copy
and delete (till we have atomic rename in some future)
* Rolledback event too
* Ability to easily plug app events in the AS use some exension points. For example
creating a new Blog post should not show a Created document event but a new Blog post
event which would contain the created document event (not shown unless you click on
"details" to see the details)
* Ability to see changes directly from the AS without navigating away from the AS (right
now when you click on "see changes" you navigate to the page!). Example, check
the AS on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI you have contextual information displayed. We
need something similar. If an image is attached on a page we should see a thumbnail of it,
etc.
Nice to have:
* filtering
Thanks
-Vincent
On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
We introduced the Activity Stream macro in XE 2.6
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Activity+Macro
We are investigating ways to improve our Activity Stream, but in order to
do that we would want to know your feedback about it (both from a
technology and an user experience pov):
- Is Activity Stream a macro you use?
- What features you most miss about it? Maybe filtering? Maybe pagination?
- Would you like to see more event types, like events generated by
applications?
- Are you using the "Send Message" functionality?
- Other opinions about it.
Your feedback will help us improve the macro by adding needed functionality
and not breaking used one.
I'll gather ideas on
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamFeed…
Thanks,
Caty
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2:06 p.m.
On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET <jeremie.bousquet(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
My feedback below:
2013/4/8 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
This already exists :)
See xwiki.cfg, specifically:
#-# Number of days the events should be kept (0 or any negative value: infinite duration)
#-# Note: if this value is greater than 0 a scheduler job will be created, this job will
then be fired every week to
#-# delete events older than the configured value.
#-# Default: 0
# xwiki.plugin.activitystream.daystokeepevents=0
Thanks
-Vincent
Hi,
We introduced the Activity Stream macro in XE 2.6
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Activity+Macro
We are investigating ways to improve our Activity Stream, but in order to
do that we would want to know your feedback about it (both from a
technology and an user experience pov):
- Is Activity Stream a macro you use?
It's just there, on my home page, but I never used the macro somewhere
else. I don't know exactly why, but I would say mainly because of
limitations (filtering...) and performance issues I had with it at some
time in the past, so I wasn't willing to put this macro everywhere.
- What features you most miss about it? Maybe
filtering? Maybe pagination?
I miss both. In my case, my mail archive app generates a large bunch of
pages (for topics and mails) that crowd the activity stream. Ideally, I
would like to:
- have a stream that would show only mail archive events. Could be all
pages events from mail archive user (as there's a dedicated user
creating/updating the pages), but may be even better to allow filtering on
... specific objects ? Would be the only way to differentiate a topic from
a mail in my case, allowing to show only topics, or only mails. I believe
that that may bring some performance issues though.
- have a stream that shows everything, except events from my mail archive
- have possibility to differentiate stream events depending on their "type"
(ie, show mails/topics events with a specific icon, different than the one
of standard pages).
- pagination seems less essential but would be very nice to have (if it
looks like the livetables pagination it would be even better). Talking
about that, livetable-style filtering would be nice to have (ie, enter a
keyword and have the stream filtered on it, based on name, author, ...).
- have possibility to remove an entry directly from the stream display. In
my case, when I change smtp password in xwiki prefs, the "see changes" of
related event shows both my old and new password in the diff view ... as
I'm not the only admin, it's a bit unsecure, so I'd like to remove that (my
example is more an issue on the diff view, I did not thoroughly check).
- have possibility to filter what streams get tracked, ie not only filter
the display (from the macro), but also prevent some events from being
tracked by activity stream. I must admit that maybe it's already possible,
I did not check.
- have some "purge" features and parameters available from xwiki admin, in
order to avoid having to perform them manually from db. For example, say
"keep only last 50 events for all pages" or "keep only last event for page
X.Y" or "keep only 1 event per day/month" etc..., and a purge job in
scheduler. - Would you
like to see more event types, like events generated by
applications?
- Are you using the "Send Message" functionality?
I merely tested by sending a message to someone. It seems my message can
only be seen from his profile, so he never saw it. I think the feature
would be more interesting if new messages you received were displayed
clearly when you log in (through some popup for example, or in some area
near page content). Would be really nice to have it displayed in "real
time" (ie, I'm logged, someone sends me a message, it appears in my current
browser tab).
> - Other opinions about it.
>
> Your feedback will help us improve the macro by adding needed functionality
> and not breaking used one.
>
> I'll gather ideas on
>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamFeed…
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
9 Apr
9 Apr
2:41 p.m.
2013/4/8 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET <jeremie.bousquet(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
pagination?
I
miss both. In my case, my mail archive app generates a large bunch of
pages (for topics and mails) that crowd the activity stream. Ideally, I
would like to:
- have a stream that would show only mail archive events. Could be all
pages events from mail archive user (as there's a dedicated user
creating/updating the pages), but may be even better to allow filtering on
Thanks for information, I didn't know that :)
Hi,
My feedback below:
2013/4/8 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
> Hi,
>
> We introduced the Activity Stream macro in XE 2.6
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Activity+Macro
>
> We are investigating ways to improve our Activity Stream, but in order
to
do that
we would want to know your feedback about it (both from a
technology and an user experience pov):
- Is Activity Stream a macro you use?
It's just there, on my home page, but I never used the macro somewhere
else. I don't know exactly why, but I would say mainly because of
limitations (filtering...) and performance issues I had with it at some
time in the past, so I wasn't willing to put this macro everywhere.
> - What features you most miss about it? Maybe filtering? Maybe ... specific objects ? Would be the only way to
differentiate a topic
from
a mail in my case, allowing to show only topics,
or only mails. I believe
that that may bring some performance issues though.
- have a stream that shows everything, except events from my mail archive
- have possibility to differentiate stream events depending on their
"type"
(ie, show mails/topics events with a specific
icon, different than the
one
of standard pages).
- pagination seems less essential but would be very nice to have (if it
looks like the livetables pagination it would be even better). Talking
about that, livetable-style filtering would be nice to have (ie, enter a
keyword and have the stream filtered on it, based on name, author, ...).
- have possibility to remove an entry directly from the stream display.
In
my case, when I change smtp password in xwiki
prefs, the "see changes" of
related event shows both my old and new password in the diff view ... as
I'm not the only admin, it's a bit unsecure, so I'd like to remove that
(my
example is more an issue on the diff view, I did
not thoroughly check).
- have possibility to filter what streams get tracked, ie not only filter
the display (from the macro), but also prevent some events from being
tracked by activity stream. I must admit that maybe it's already
possible,
I did not check.
- have some "purge" features and parameters available from xwiki admin,
in
order to avoid having to perform them manually
from db. For example, say
"keep only last 50 events for all pages" or "keep only last event for
page
X.Y" or "keep only 1 event per
day/month" etc..., and a purge job in
scheduler.
This already exists :)
See xwiki.cfg, specifically:
#-# Number of days the events should be kept (0 or any negative value:
infinite duration)
#-# Note: if this value is greater than 0 a scheduler job will be created,
this job will then be fired every week to
#-# delete events older than the configured value.
#-# Default: 0
# xwiki.plugin.activitystream.daystokeepevents=0
Thanks
-Vincent
current
- Would
you like to see more event types, like events generated by
applications?
- Are you using the "Send Message" functionality?
I merely tested by sending a message to someone. It seems my message can
only be seen from his profile, so he never saw it. I think the feature
would be more interesting if new messages you received were displayed
clearly when you log in (through some popup for example, or in some area
near page content). Would be really nice to have it displayed in "real
time" (ie, I'm logged, someone sends me a message, it appears in my browser tab).
> - Other opinions about it.
>
> Your feedback will help us improve the macro by adding needed
functionality
> and not breaking used one.
>
> I'll gather ideas on
>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamFeed…
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
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2 Jul
2 Jul
12:51 p.m.
On Apr 8, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caty,
What would help for my own usage:
* Good performance (main showstopper right now)
* Ability to easily see more events by default on the home page (with a "See
More" button that expands without reloading the page). I think this is what you call
pagination.
* Grouped events, for example for XAR imports or extension installation (do we get events
for that in the AS btw?)
* More events, like Rename event. A rename event should be a grouping event, grouping
copy and delete (till we have atomic rename in some future)
* Rolledback event too
* Ability to easily plug app events in the AS use some exension points. For example
creating a new Blog post should not show a Created document event but a new Blog post
event which would contain the created document event (not shown unless you click on
"details" to see the details)
* Ability to see changes directly from the AS without navigating away from the AS (right
now when you click on "see changes" you navigate to the page!). Example, check
the AS on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI you have contextual information displayed. We
need something similar. If an image is attached on a page we should see a thumbnail of it,
etc.
* Persistent filters.
Explanation:
A certain number of users have a wiki based on a single application (structured data). The
first thing they do ATM is to wipe out the home page (and thus remove the AS) and use a
livetable since they want to have a home page that shows only changes for documents
containing a given xobject. If we could have the AS be configurable (i.e. persistent
configuration) which allows to configure an xobject filter for it, then we could satisfy
those users (they'd edit the configuration and put the filter to their xclass and thus
their wiki's home page would only list structured documents matching their xclass).
Thanks
-Vincent
Nice to have:
* filtering
Thanks
-Vincent
On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We introduced the Activity Stream macro in XE 2.6
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Activity+Macro
>
> We are investigating ways to improve our Activity Stream, but in order to
> do that we would want to know your feedback about it (both from a
> technology and an user experience pov):
> - Is Activity Stream a macro you use?
> - What features you most miss about it? Maybe filtering? Maybe pagination?
> - Would you like to see more event types, like events generated by
> applications?
> - Are you using the "Send Message" functionality?
> - Other opinions about it.
>
> Your feedback will help us improve the macro by adding needed functionality
> and not breaking used one.
>
> I'll gather ideas on
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamFeed…
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
1:32 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Apr 8, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6698
Hi Caty,
What would help for my own usage:
* Good performance (main showstopper right now)
* Ability to easily see more events by default on the home page (with a
"See
More" button that expands without reloading the page). I think this is
what you call pagination.
* Grouped events, for example for XAR imports or
extension installation
(do we get events for that in the AS btw?)
* More events, like Rename event. A rename event
should be a grouping
event, grouping copy and delete (till we have atomic rename in
some future)
* Rolledback event too
* Ability to easily plug app events in the AS use some exension points.
For
example creating a new Blog post should not show a Created document
event but a new Blog post event which would contain the created document
event (not shown unless you click on "details" to see the details)
* Ability to see changes directly from the AS
without navigating away
from the AS (right now when you click on "see
changes" you navigate to the
page!). Example, check the AS on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI you
have contextual information displayed. We need something similar. If an
image is attached on a page we should see a thumbnail of it, etc.
* Persistent filters.
Explanation:
A certain number of users have a wiki based on a single application
(structured data). The first thing they do ATM is to wipe out the home page
(and thus remove the AS) and use a livetable since they want to have a home
page that shows only changes for documents containing a given xobject. If
we could have the AS be configurable (i.e. persistent configuration) which
allows to configure an xobject filter for it, then we could satisfy those
users (they'd edit the configuration and put the filter to their xclass and
thus their wiki's home page would only list structured documents matching
their xclass).
Thanks
-Vincent
Nice to have:
* filtering
Thanks
-Vincent
On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We introduced the Activity Stream macro in XE 2.6
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Activity+Macro
>
> We are investigating ways to improve our Activity Stream, but in order
to
> do that we would want to know your feedback
about it (both from a
> technology and an user experience pov):
> - Is Activity Stream a macro you use?
> - What features you most miss about it? Maybe filtering? Maybe
pagination?
> - Would you like to see more event types,
like events generated by
> applications?
> - Are you using the "Send Message" functionality?
> - Other opinions about it.
>
> Your feedback will help us improve the macro by adding needed
functionality
> and not breaking used one.
>
> I'll gather ideas on
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamFeed…
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
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New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Feedback] Activity Stream
On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:32 PM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)"
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I understand it as slightly different since the issue you point to is not about
*persistent* filters but about filters. Having persistent filters is an improvement of
XWIKI-6698 IMO. They can be implemented together too if we agree.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Apr 8, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6698 Hi Caty,
What would help for my own usage:
* Good performance (main showstopper right now)
* Ability to easily see more events by default on the home page (with a
"See
More" button that expands without reloading the page). I think this is
what you call pagination.
* Grouped events, for example for XAR imports or
extension installation
(do we get events for that in the AS btw?)
* More events, like Rename event. A rename event
should be a grouping
event, grouping copy and delete (till we have atomic rename in
some future)
* Rolledback event too
* Ability to easily plug app events in the AS use some exension points.
For
example creating a new Blog post should not show a Created document
event but a new Blog post event which would contain the created document
event (not shown unless you click on "details" to see the details)
* Ability to see changes directly from the AS
without navigating away
from the AS (right now when you click on "see
changes" you navigate to the
page!). Example, check the AS on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI you
have contextual information displayed. We need something similar. If an
image is attached on a page we should see a thumbnail of it, etc.
* Persistent filters.
> Explanation:
>
> A certain number of users have a wiki based on a single application
> (structured data). The first thing they do ATM is to wipe out the home page
> (and thus remove the AS) and use a livetable since they want to have a home
> page that shows only changes for documents containing a given xobject. If
> we could have the AS be configurable (i.e. persistent configuration) which
> allows to configure an xobject filter for it, then we could satisfy those
> users (they'd edit the configuration and put the filter to their xclass and
> thus their wiki's home page would only list structured documents matching
> their xclass).
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>> Nice to have:
>> * filtering
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We introduced the Activity Stream macro in XE 2.6
>>> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Activity+Macro
>>>
>>> We are investigating ways to improve our Activity Stream, but in order
> to
>>> do that we would want to know your feedback about it (both from a
>>> technology and an user experience pov):
>>> - Is Activity Stream a macro you use?
>>> - What features you most miss about it? Maybe filtering? Maybe
> pagination?
>>> - Would you like to see more event types, like events generated by
>>> applications?
>>> - Are you using the "Send Message" functionality?
>>> - Other opinions about it.
>>>
>>> Your feedback will help us improve the macro by adding needed
> functionality
>>> and not breaking used one.
>>>
>>> I'll gather ideas on
>>>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamFeed…
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caty
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