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Hi
This is brilliant and just what I needed. Thank you very much!
Kind regards,
Mahomed
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From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Marius Dumitru Florea
Sent: 03 April 2015 11:37
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Advice on upgrade and testing
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Thomas Mortagne
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Mahomed Hussein
<Mahomed(a)custodiandc.com> wrote:
Hi
I wonder if anyone could be kind enough to provide me with some advice and pointers. I’ve
noticed that XWiki runs its distribution upgrade wizard automatically when a new version
is detected, but even though I pressed “Later” it still went ahead and upgraded. Or at
least it appeared to have upgraded part of the system as the core version at the bottom
showed 6.4.3 when the extensions etc. were still for 6.4.2. We started with 6.4.2
(installed using apt-get on Ubuntu 14.04). So, to summarise my questions:
· How do I stop Xwiki from automatically upgrading. I just want it to notify me
then I can plan the upgrade
You are mixing two different things. The upgrade wizard is only about
part of XWiki (the standard wiki pages) and it's been triggered
because you upgraded the WAR probably using apt-get upgrade. If you
don't want XWiki to be upgraded by apt-get you need to look at apt-get
configuration.
As far as I know you can indicate a list of packages
to
not be taken into account automatically by apt-get upgrade.
I successfully 'blocked' upgrades for XWiki by creating the file
/etc/apt/preferences.d/xwiki
with this content:
Package: xwiki-*
Pin: version 6.2.7
Pin-Priority: 1001
See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
Hope this helps,
Marius
· How do you perform a controlled upgrade and test (I appreciate that this is a
rather in-depth question)? What I need to be able to do is to do an upgrade and then be
able to fairly easily test that the new version doesn’t break any of our documents or
functionality that we depend on. Would the only way to do this be to keep a list of my
changes and check them with every upgrade?
The safest for this is usually to have a test server which is a clone
of the production server on which you do the upgrade and test it
before doing it on the production server.
Thanks in advance for your time and help.
Kind regards,
Mahomed Hussein
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New subject: [xwiki-users] Advice on upgrade and testing
Hi Mahomed,
2 things:
1) if you pressed “later” XWiki will not ask you again until it’s restarted
2) if you don’t upgrade now you are going to risk having stuff in your wiki that don’t
work so it’s important you upgrade ASAP. Having a reminder at each XWiki restart is a good
thing and bypassing that is not such a brilliant idea IMO :)
Thanks
-Vincent
On 3 Apr 2015 at 13:01:10, Mahomed Hussein
(mahomed@custodiandc.com(mailto:mahomed@custodiandc.com)) wrote:
Hi
This is brilliant and just what I needed. Thank you very much!
Kind regards,
Mahomed
-----Original Message-----
From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Marius Dumitru Florea
Sent: 03 April 2015 11:37
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Advice on upgrade and testing
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Thomas Mortagne
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Mahomed Hussein
wrote:
Hi
I wonder if anyone could be kind enough to provide me with some advice and pointers. I’ve
noticed that XWiki runs its distribution upgrade wizard automatically when a new version
is detected, but even though I pressed “Later” it still went ahead and upgraded. Or at
least it appeared to have upgraded part of the system as the core version at the bottom
showed 6.4.3 when the extensions etc. were still for 6.4.2. We started with 6.4.2
(installed using apt-get on Ubuntu 14.04). So, to summarise my questions:
· How do I stop Xwiki from automatically upgrading. I just want it to notify me then I
can plan the upgrade
You are mixing two different things. The upgrade wizard is only about
part of XWiki (the standard wiki pages) and it's been triggered
because you upgraded the WAR probably using apt-get upgrade. If you
don't want XWiki to be upgraded by apt-get you need to look at apt-get
configuration. As far as I know you can indicate a list of
packages to
not be taken into account automatically by apt-get upgrade.
I successfully 'blocked' upgrades for XWiki by creating the file
/etc/apt/preferences.d/xwiki
with this content:
Package: xwiki-*
Pin: version 6.2.7
Pin-Priority: 1001
See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
Hope this helps,
Marius
>
>>
>> · How do you perform a controlled upgrade and test (I appreciate that this is a
rather in-depth question)? What I need to be able to do is to do an upgrade and then be
able to fairly easily test that the new version doesn’t break any of our documents or
functionality that we depend on. Would the only way to do this be to keep a list of my
changes and check them with every upgrade?
>
> The safest for this is usually to have a test server which is a clone
> of the production server on which you do the upgrade and test it
> before doing it on the production server.
>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your time and help.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mahomed Hussein
>> Senior NOC Engineer
>>
>> P.S. We are finalists for Data Centre Colocation Supplier of the year, please
help us to win and VOTE for us here
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1622 230382
>>
>> | Email: Mahomed(a)CustodianDC.com 
1:37 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Advice on upgrade and testing
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:05 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Mahomed,
2 things:
1) if you pressed “later” XWiki will not ask you again until it’s restarted
2) if you don’t upgrade now you are going to risk
having stuff in your wiki that don’t work so it’s important you upgrade ASAP. Having a
reminder at each XWiki restart is a good thing and bypassing that is not such a brilliant
idea IMO :)
My comment was about blocking the WAR upgrades not the UI upgrades
(through the DW). When you install XWiki through APT you may get
unwanted WAR uppdates because:
* the system is configured to update automatically
* the list of system updates is large and you don't notice that XWiki
is included in the list
Thanks,
Marius
Thanks
-Vincent
On 3 Apr 2015 at 13:01:10, Mahomed Hussein
(mahomed@custodiandc.com(mailto:mahomed@custodiandc.com)) wrote:
Hi
This is brilliant and just what I needed. Thank you very much!
Kind regards,
Mahomed
-----Original Message-----
From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Marius Dumitru Florea
Sent: 03 April 2015 11:37
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Advice on upgrade and testing
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Thomas Mortagne
wrote:
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Mahomed Hussein
wrote:
Hi
I wonder if anyone could be kind enough to provide me with some advice and pointers. I’ve
noticed that XWiki runs its distribution upgrade wizard automatically when a new version
is detected, but even though I pressed “Later” it still went ahead and upgraded. Or at
least it appeared to have upgraded part of the system as the core version at the bottom
showed 6.4.3 when the extensions etc. were still for 6.4.2. We started with 6.4.2
(installed using apt-get on Ubuntu 14.04). So, to summarise my questions:
· How do I stop Xwiki from automatically upgrading. I just want it to notify me then I
can plan the upgrade
You are mixing two different things. The upgrade wizard is only about
part of XWiki (the standard wiki pages) and it's been triggered
because you upgraded the WAR probably using apt-get upgrade. If you
don't want XWiki to be upgraded by apt-get you need to look at apt-get
configuration. As far as I know you can indicate a list of
packages to
not be taken into account automatically by apt-get upgrade.
I successfully 'blocked' upgrades for XWiki by creating the file
/etc/apt/preferences.d/xwiki
with this content:
Package: xwiki-*
Pin: version 6.2.7
Pin-Priority: 1001
See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
Hope this helps,
Marius
>
>>
>> · How do you perform a controlled upgrade and test (I appreciate that this is a
rather in-depth question)? What I need to be able to do is to do an upgrade and then be
able to fairly easily test that the new version doesn’t break any of our documents or
functionality that we depend on. Would the only way to do this be to keep a list of my
changes and check them with every upgrade?
>
> The safest for this is usually to have a test server which is a clone
> of the production server on which you do the upgrade and test it
> before doing it on the production server.
>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your time and help.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mahomed Hussein
>> Senior NOC Engineer
>>
>> P.S. We are finalists for Data Centre Colocation Supplier of the year, please
help us to win and VOTE for us here
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1622 230382
>>
>> | Email: Mahomed(a)CustodianDC.com
1:39 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Advice on upgrade and testing
Indeed not upgrading WAR + UI makes sense. Upgrading only WAR without the UI doesn’t.
We agree :)
Thanks
-Vincent
On 3 Apr 2015 at 13:37:48, Marius Dumitru Florea (mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com) wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:05 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Mahomed,
2 things:
1) if you pressed “later” XWiki will not ask you again until it’s restarted
2) if you don’t upgrade now you are going to risk
having stuff in your wiki that don’t work so it’s important you upgrade ASAP. Having a
reminder at each XWiki restart is a good thing and bypassing that is not such a brilliant
idea IMO :)
My comment was about blocking the WAR upgrades not the UI upgrades
(through the DW). When you install XWiki through APT you may get
unwanted WAR uppdates because:
* the system is configured to update automatically
* the list of system updates is large and you don't notice that XWiki
is included in the list
Thanks,
Marius
Thanks
-Vincent
On 3 Apr 2015 at 13:01:10, Mahomed Hussein
(mahomed@custodiandc.com(mailto:mahomed@custodiandc.com)) wrote:
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Hi
This is brilliant and just what I needed. Thank you very much!
Kind regards,
Mahomed
-----Original Message-----
From: users [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Marius Dumitru Florea
Sent: 03 April 2015 11:37
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Advice on upgrade and testing
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Thomas Mortagne
wrote:
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Mahomed Hussein
wrote:
Hi
I wonder if anyone could be kind enough to provide me with some advice and pointers. I’ve
noticed that XWiki runs its distribution upgrade wizard automatically when a new version
is detected, but even though I pressed “Later” it still went ahead and upgraded. Or at
least it appeared to have upgraded part of the system as the core version at the bottom
showed 6.4.3 when the extensions etc. were still for 6.4.2. We started with 6.4.2
(installed using apt-get on Ubuntu 14.04). So, to summarise my questions:
· How do I stop Xwiki from automatically upgrading. I just want it to notify me then I
can plan the upgrade
You are mixing two different things. The upgrade wizard is only about
part of XWiki (the standard wiki pages) and it's been triggered
because you upgraded the WAR probably using apt-get upgrade. If you
don't want XWiki to be upgraded by apt-get you need to look at apt-get
configuration. As far as I know you can indicate a list of
packages to
not be taken into account automatically by apt-get upgrade.
I successfully 'blocked' upgrades for XWiki by creating the file
/etc/apt/preferences.d/xwiki
with this content:
Package: xwiki-*
Pin: version 6.2.7
Pin-Priority: 1001
See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
Hope this helps,
Marius
>
>>
>> · How do you perform a controlled upgrade and test (I appreciate that this is a
rather in-depth question)? What I need to be able to do is to do an upgrade and then be
able to fairly easily test that the new version doesn’t break any of our documents or
functionality that we depend on. Would the only way to do this be to keep a list of my
changes and check them with every upgrade?
>
> The safest for this is usually to have a test server which is a clone
> of the production server on which you do the upgrade and test it
> before doing it on the production server.
>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your time and help.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mahomed Hussein
>> Senior NOC Engineer
>>
>> P.S. We are finalists for Data Centre Colocation Supplier of the year, please
help us to win and VOTE for us here
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1622 230382
>>
>> | Email: Mahomed(a)CustodianDC.com
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