[xwiki-users] support for google sitemaps and webmaster tools? (and why do xwiki RDF's give "unsupported file format"?)
12 Mar
2009
12 Mar
'09
6:14 p.m.
Has anybody figured out a way to get xwiki to generate a Google sitemap as
an alternative to RSS feeds? (see
http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html ). Also, video
sitemaps (
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=80472&cbi…)
would be useful to index xwiki attachments and media on media search
engines ( http://video.google.com/ ). Video sitemaps are predicated on MRSS:
*Using an mRSS feed as a Video Sitemap* back to
top<http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=80472&…
Google supports mRSS <http://search.yahoo.com/mrss>, an RSS module that
supplements the element capabilities of RSS
2.0<http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rss/rss.html>to allow for more robust
media syndication. If you publish an mRSS feed for
the video content on your site, you can submit the feed's URL as a Sitemap.
For detailed information on creating an mRSS feed, including samples and
best practices, please see the Media RSS
specification<http://search.yahoo.com/mrss>ss>.
Google also supports RSS 2.0 using enclosures tags for video content and
thumbnail urls.
**Sitemaps seem to use their own protocol:
*XML Sitemap Format*
The Sitemap Protocol format consists of XML tags. All data values in a
Sitemap must be
entity-escaped<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.…ed>.
The file itself must be UTF-8 encoded.
A sample Sitemap that contains just one URL and uses all optional tags is
shown below. The optional tags are in italics.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<urlset
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#urlsetdef>
xmlns="http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9">
<url
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#urldef>>
<loc
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#locdef>>http://www.example.com/</loc>
*<lastmod
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#lastmoddef>>2005-01-01</lastmod>
<changefreq
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#changefreqdef>>monthly</changefreq>
<priority
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#prioritydef>>0.8</priority>*
</url>
</urlset>
The Sitemap must:
- Begin with an opening <urlset> tag and end with a closing </urlset>tag.
- Include a <url> entry for each URL as a parent XML tag.
- Include a <loc> child entry for each <url> parent tag.
Niels
http://nielsmayer.com
PS: google sitemap support sounds like a good entry-level GSOC project. :-)
Probably just a big hack to existing code in Main.WebRss?xpage=rdf and
Main.BlogRss?xpage=rdf. Probably a 1 day project for someone that knows
how....
PPS: why does http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=rdfwork
in many places, display correctly in firefox 3, but when used to
generate a sitemap in google webmaster tools, it fails. (Meanwhile roller
blogger's RSS feed succeeds):
roller/NielsMayer/feed/entries/atom
Atom Feed 5 hours ago OK 32 xwiki/bin/view/Main/BlogRss?xpage=rdf
-- 5 hours ago Errors -- xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=rdf
-- 5 hours ago Errors
The reported problem coming from xwiki's xpage=rdf feeds:
*Unsupported file format*
Your Sitemap does not appear to be in a supported
format. Please ensure it
meets our Sitemap guidelines and resubmit.
Help<http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35738…
[image:
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12 Mar
12 Mar
9:44 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] support for google sitemaps and webmaster tools? (and why do xwiki RDF's give "unsupported file format"?)
Niels Mayer wrote:
Has anybody figured out a way to get xwiki to generate
a Google sitemap as
an alternative to RSS feeds? (see
http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html ). Also, video
sitemaps (
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=80472&cbi…)
would be useful to index xwiki attachments and media on media search
engines ( http://video.google.com/ ). Video sitemaps are predicated on MRSS:
*Using an mRSS feed as a Video Sitemap* back to
top<http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=80472&…
Google supports mRSS <http://search.yahoo.com/mrss>, an RSS module that
supplements the element capabilities of RSS
2.0<http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rss/rss.html>to allow for more robust
media syndication. If you publish an mRSS feed for
the video content on your site, you can submit the feed's URL as a Sitemap.
For detailed information on creating an mRSS feed, including samples and
best practices, please see the Media RSS
specification<http://search.yahoo.com/mrss>ss>.
Google also supports RSS 2.0 using enclosures tags for video content and
thumbnail urls.
**Sitemaps seem to use their own protocol:
Just an idea... maybe they expect the ".xml" extension ?
Jerome
*XML Sitemap Format*
The Sitemap Protocol format consists of XML tags. All data values in a
Sitemap must be
entity-escaped<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.…ed>.
The file itself must be UTF-8 encoded.
A sample Sitemap that contains just one URL and uses all optional tags is
shown below. The optional tags are in italics.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<urlset
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#urlsetdef>
xmlns="http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9">
<url
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#urldef>>
<loc
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#locdef>>http://www.example.com/</loc>
*<lastmod
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#lastmoddef>>2005-01-01</lastmod>
<changefreq
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#changefreqdef>>monthly</changefreq>
<priority
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/protocol.html#prioritydef>>0.8</priority>*
</url>
</urlset>
The Sitemap must:
- Begin with an opening <urlset> tag and end with a closing </urlset>tag.
- Include a <url> entry for each URL as a parent XML tag.
- Include a <loc> child entry for each <url> parent tag.
Niels
http://nielsmayer.com
PS: google sitemap support sounds like a good entry-level GSOC project. :-)
Probably just a big hack to existing code in Main.WebRss?xpage=rdf and
Main.BlogRss?xpage=rdf. Probably a 1 day project for someone that knows
how....
PPS: why does http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=rdfwork
in many places, display correctly in firefox 3, but when used to
generate a sitemap in google webmaster tools, it fails. (Meanwhile roller
blogger's RSS feed succeeds):
roller/NielsMayer/feed/entries/atom
Atom Feed 5 hours ago OK 32 xwiki/bin/view/Main/BlogRss?xpage=rdf
-- 5 hours ago Errors -- xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=rdf
-- 5 hours ago Errors
The reported problem coming from xwiki's xpage=rdf feeds:
*Unsupported file format* Your Sitemap
does not appear to be in a supported format. Please ensure it
meets our Sitemap guidelines and resubmit.
Help<http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35738…
[image:
Help]
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14 Mar
14 Mar
1:48 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] support for google sitemaps and webmaster tools? (and why do xwiki RDF's give "unsupported file format"?)
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Thanks for the hint.
The other feeds don't have XML extension, however, I believe your answer is
close to the problem. No matter what I did in my setup, I was getting
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?
The roller blog atom feed that *does* work correctly w/ google sitemaps
returns:
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding='utf-8'?
I fixed this issue by running java with -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 (note the
lowercase setting suggested in
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Performances seems
incorrect?). When that alone didn't work, I also added "
-Djavax.servlet.request.encoding=UTF-8-DjavaEncoding=UTF-8" which had been
suggested in solving this problem for other Tomcat users.
(Now I run java with the following options:-server -Xms160m -Xmx1024m
-XX:PermSize=160m -XX:MaxPermSize=320m
-Djavax.servlet.request.encoding=UTF-8 -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8
-DjavaEncoding=UTF-8 -Djava.awt.headless=true)
I also saw other suggestions to set LANG="en_US.UTF-8" in the tomcat
launching script... however, I'm not sure which of my changes "did" it, but
i believe that following two steps I'd forgotten||skipped in
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Encoding caused the
correct encoding to be used:
(1) WEB-INF> diff web.xml.~1~ web.xml
23c23
< <param-value>ISO-8859-1</param-value
---
> <param-value>UTF-8</param-value
(2) WEB-INF> diff xwiki.cfg.~2~ xwiki.cfg
29c29
< xwiki.encoding=ISO-8859-1
---
I'll find out whether changing the encoding fixes the *"Unsupported file
format*" error when passing a Xwiki RDF feed to
http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/about.html .
-- Niels
http://nielsmayer.com
PS: Why not just have xwiki.cfg's default be: 'xwiki.encoding=UTF-8' ;
likewise have web.xml's default for
com.xpn.xwiki.web.SetCharacterEncodingFilter's 'encoding' be UTF-8. These
encoding errors that oft go unnoticed are probably resulting in a number of
configuration errors, and perhaps other bug-reports that aren't entirely
valid, should they depend on encoding issues.
-- 5 hours ago
Errors -- xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=rdf
-- 5 hours ago Errors
The reported problem coming from xwiki's xpage=rdf feeds:
*Unsupported file format*
Just an idea... maybe they expect the ".xml" extension ? xwiki.encoding=UTF-8
With all of the above now reconfigured, I now get the correct output for
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=rdf :
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?
17 Mar
17 Mar
1:37 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] support for google sitemaps and webmaster tools? (and why do xwiki RDF's give "unsupported file format"?)
Partially answering my own question... there is some support for Sitemaps in
XWiki
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/XmlSitemapGeneratorSnippet
The above might not even be necessary since google builds sitemaps out of
RSS fedds as well. However, they are not working with XWiki's RSS, only with
another application's "Atom" format feed.
I have three working XWiki feeds per my firefox browser:
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/GlobalBlogRss?xpage=plain
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/TagsRss?xpage=plain
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=plain
Yet when given to Google Webmaster
tools<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/about.html>ml>,
these feeds turn up errors, even though I corrected the encoding of the
files to UTF8 (see prev message):
roller/NielsMayer/feed/entries/atom
Atom Feed Mar 14, 2009 OK 32
xwiki/bin/view/Blog/GlobalBlogRss?xpage=plain
-- 16 hours ago Errors --
xwiki/bin/view/Main/TagsRss?xpage=plain
-- Mar 14, 2009 Errors --
xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=plain
-- 12 hours ago Errors --
The specific error continues to be:
- *Unsupported file format*
Your Sitemap does not appear to be in a supported format. Please ensure it
meets our Sitemap guidelines and resubmit.
Help<http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35738…
[image:
Help]
Any further suggestions??
Is there a way to get XWiki to output 'atom' instead of 'RSS'? Perhaps
google will accept atom-based feeds but not RSS? The docs indicate it
handles RSS feeds.
Niels
http://nielsmayer.com
7:43 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] support for google sitemaps and webmaster tools? (and why do xwiki RDF's give "unsupported file format"?)
Hi Niels,
Niels Mayer wrote:
Partially answering my own question... there is some
support for Sitemaps in
XWiki
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/XmlSitemapGeneratorSnippet
The above might not even be necessary since google builds sitemaps out of
RSS fedds as well. However, they are not working with XWiki's RSS, only with
another application's "Atom" format feed.
I have three working XWiki feeds per my firefox browser:
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/GlobalBlogRss?xpage=plain
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/TagsRss?xpage=plain
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=plain
Yet when given to Google Webmaster
tools<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/about.html>ml>,
these feeds turn up errors, even though I corrected the encoding of the
files to UTF8 (see prev message):
roller/NielsMayer/feed/entries/atom
See http://tinyurl.com/cps7oa and http://tinyurl.com/d3gvvc .
Hope this helps,
Marius
Atom Feed Mar 14, 2009 OK 32
xwiki/bin/view/Blog/GlobalBlogRss?xpage=plain
-- 16 hours ago Errors --
xwiki/bin/view/Main/TagsRss?xpage=plain
-- Mar 14, 2009 Errors --
xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=plain
-- 12 hours ago Errors --
The specific error continues to be:
- *Unsupported file format*
Your Sitemap does not appear to be in a supported format. Please ensure it
meets our Sitemap guidelines and resubmit.
Help<http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35738…
[image:
Help]
Any further suggestions??
Is there a way to get XWiki to output 'atom' instead of 'RSS'? Perhaps
google will accept atom-based feeds but not RSS? The docs indicate it
handles RSS feeds.
Niels
http://nielsmayer.com
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New subject: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] support for google sitemaps and webmaster tools? (and why do xwiki RDF's give "unsupported file format"?)
Niels Mayer wrote:
Partially answering my own question... there is some
support for Sitemaps in
XWiki
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/XmlSitemapGeneratorSnippet
The above might not even be necessary since google builds sitemaps out of
RSS fedds as well. However, they are not working with XWiki's RSS, only with
another application's "Atom" format feed.
I have three working XWiki feeds per my firefox browser:
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/GlobalBlogRss?xpage=plain
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/TagsRss?xpage=plain
http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=plain
Yet when given to Google Webmaster
tools<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/docs/en/about.html>ml>,
these feeds turn up errors, even though I corrected the encoding of the
files to UTF8 (see prev message):
roller/NielsMayer/feed/entries/atom
XWiki outputs RSS 1.0. Google expects RSS 2.0. There are major
differences between the two, they can be seen as two different formats,
not two versions of the same format.
Atom Feed Mar 14, 2009 OK 32
xwiki/bin/view/Blog/GlobalBlogRss?xpage=plain
-- 16 hours ago Errors --
xwiki/bin/view/Main/TagsRss?xpage=plain
-- Mar 14, 2009 Errors --
xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebRss?xpage=plain
-- 12 hours ago Errors --
The specific error continues to be:
- *Unsupported file format*
Your Sitemap does not appear to be in a supported format. Please ensure it
meets our Sitemap guidelines and resubmit.
Help<http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35738…
[image:
Help]
Any further suggestions?? Is there a way to get XWiki to output 'atom'
instead of 'RSS'? Perhaps
google will accept atom-based feeds but not RSS? The docs indicate it
handles RSS feeds.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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