1 Jul
2011
1 Jul
'11
4:38 a.m.
Hi again,
I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import.
If I go through the XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any packages...
the link is:
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there):
http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded.
Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the
second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the
Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space)
cheers
Paul
1 Jul
1 Jul
8:36 a.m.
Hi Paul,
On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
Hi again,
I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import.
If I go through the XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any packages...
the link is:
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there):
http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded.
Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the
second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the
Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space)
XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a
fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
is synchronized with
http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said
you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
you have installed on top of 3.1.
Hope this helps,
Marius
cheers
Paul
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8:41 a.m.
On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi Paul,
On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1...
How can I find out where it came from?
Hi again,
I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import.
If I go through the XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any
packages...
the link is:
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there):
http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded.
Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the
second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
the
Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in
the XWiki space)
XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a
fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
is synchronized with
http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said
you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
you have installed on top of 3.1.
Hope this helps,
Marius
8:59 a.m.
On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't
modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there.
You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO.
Thanks
-Vincent
Hi Paul,
On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1...
How can I find out where it came from? Hi again,
I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import.
If I go through the XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any
packages...
the link is:
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there):
http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded.
Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the
second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
the
Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in
the XWiki space)
XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a
fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
is synchronized with
http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said
you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
you have installed on top of 3.1.
Hope this helps,
Marius
9:03 a.m.
On 07/01/2011 09:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
>> Hi again,
> >> I wanted to delete all the packages I
had uploaded for Import.
> >> If I go through the XWikiPreferences
--> Import, I can't see any
> packages...
>> the link is:
> >
>
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
> >> However, if I go to this page (which I
can't remember how I got there):
>> http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
> >> I can see a dozen packages that I
uploaded.
> >> Whats the difference between these two
imports, and how do I get to the
>> second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
> the
>> Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space)
> XWiki.Import page is not part of the
standard XAR. I don't have it on a
> fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
> XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
> is synchronized with
> http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
> XWiki.Import page is either from your
previous XE 2.6 (which you said
> you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
> you have installed on top of 3.1.
> Hope this helps,
> Marius
>
I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1...
Wiki pages are stored in the database not on the file system and I
suppose you connected the clean 3.1 to the database used by your
previous 2.6.
How can I find out where it came from?
You can check its history and if the creation date is before the upgrade
of after.
Hope this helps,
Marius
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9:14 a.m.
On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing?
How can I find other pages are lingering?
And, more importantly, next time I upgrade xwiki, what is the correct
procedure to ensure that:
1) I do not have to reconfigure all my appearance configuration
2) I do not have to reconfigure my rights
3) I do not leave crufty old pages around
?
I do not understand how everyone else upgrades their xwiki... its
taken me 2 days and I'm still discovering things that shouldn't be
there (like this Import page)
On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't
modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there.
You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO.
Hi Paul,
On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1...
How can I find out where it came from? Hi again,
I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import.
If I go through the XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any
packages...
the link is:
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there):
http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded.
Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the
second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
the
Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in
the XWiki space)
XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a
fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
is synchronized with
http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said
you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
you have installed on top of 3.1.
Hope this helps,
Marius
9:19 a.m.
On 1 July 2011 15:03, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On 07/01/2011 09:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
In /xwiki/SpaceIndex,
I have pages created in 2008 ! I only started using xwiki last year!
AdminProgrammingSheet -- 2008
AdminGeneralSheet -- 2009
CopyDocument -- 2009
XWikiUserTemplate -- 2010
SearchSuggestSourceClass -- 2010
and a whole bunch owned by "superuser", including
XWikiRights
TagClass
and about 20 more pages owned by either superuser or Administrator.
should I be deleting these?
On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris
wrote:
>> Hi again,
> >> I wanted to delete all the
packages I had uploaded for Import.
> >> If I go through the
XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any
> packages...
>> the link is:
> > >
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
> >> However, if I go to this page
(which I can't remember how I got there):
>> http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
> >> I can see a dozen packages
that I uploaded.
> >> Whats the difference between
these two imports, and how do I get to the
>> second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
> the
>> Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space)
> XWiki.Import page is not part of the
standard XAR. I don't have it on a
> fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
> XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
> is synchronized with
> http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
> XWiki.Import page is either from your
previous XE 2.6 (which you said
> you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
> you have installed on top of 3.1.
> Hope this helps,
> Marius
>
I started with a blank web folder and extracted
3.1...
Wiki pages are stored in the database not on the file system and I
suppose you connected the clean 3.1 to the database used by your
previous 2.6.
How can I find out where it came from?
You can check its history and if the creation date is before the upgrade
of after.
Hope this helps,
Marius
9:28 a.m.
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Ideally yes but that's not implemented at the moment.
We're introducing the notion of extension manager to manager extensions and as part of
it there'll be a notion of an application (ie a set of pages) and when an app is
installed or upgraded it'll have the ability to run some script.
On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing? On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't
modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there.
You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO.
Hi Paul,
On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import.
>
> If I go through the XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any
packages...
> the link is:
>
>
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
>
> However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there):
> http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
>
> I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded.
>
> Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the
> second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
the
> Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space)
XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a
fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
is synchronized with
http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said
you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
you have installed on top of 3.1.
Hope this helps,
Marius
I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1...
How can I find out where it came from? How can I find other pages are lingering?
You could compare the two XARs using either
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XAR+Diff+Application or the Admin
Tools which reuse this XAR Diff app code
(http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/AdminTools).
Note that at some point we wanted to list this in the Release Notes but we've not been
doing it diligently. I'd like us to do that better in the future.
And, more importantly, next time I upgrade xwiki, what
is the correct
procedure to ensure that:
1) I do not have to reconfigure all my appearance configuration
You should not import XWikiPreferences, WebPreferences, etc. These are all indicated in
the upgrade instructions.
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HUpgrading…
2) I do not have to reconfigure my rights
Same
3) I do not leave crufty old pages around
See above. Note that pages that are left won't impact the execution of your wiki. If
they do they'd be mentioned in the release notes.
?
I do not understand how everyone else upgrades their xwiki... its
taken me 2 days and I'm still discovering things that shouldn't be
there (like this Import page)
Upgrading is still not an easy process. We're tacking this with the Extension Manager,
see
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ExtensionManager
Thanks
-Vincent
9:29 a.m.
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
On 1 July 2011 15:03, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
No. The date simply indicates when the page was created.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 07/01/2011 09:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
In /xwiki/SpaceIndex,
I have pages created in 2008 ! I only started using xwiki last year!
AdminProgrammingSheet -- 2008
AdminGeneralSheet -- 2009
CopyDocument -- 2009
XWikiUserTemplate -- 2010
SearchSuggestSourceClass -- 2010
and a whole bunch owned by "superuser", including
XWikiRights
TagClass
and about 20 more pages owned by either superuser or Administrator.
should I be deleting these? On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris
wrote:
>> Hi again,
> >> I wanted to delete all the
packages I had uploaded for Import.
> >> If I go through the
XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any
> packages...
>> the link is:
> > >
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
> >> However, if I go to this page
(which I can't remember how I got there):
>> http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
> >> I can see a dozen packages
that I uploaded.
> >> Whats the difference between
these two imports, and how do I get to the
>> second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
> the
>> Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space)
> XWiki.Import page is not part of the
standard XAR. I don't have it on a
> fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
> XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
> is synchronized with
> http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
> XWiki.Import page is either from your
previous XE 2.6 (which you said
> you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
> you have installed on top of 3.1.
> Hope this helps,
> Marius
>
I started with a blank web folder and extracted
3.1...
Wiki pages are stored in the database not on the file system and I
suppose you connected the clean 3.1 to the database used by your
previous 2.6.
How can I find out where it came from?
You can check its history and if the creation date is before the upgrade
of after.
Hope this helps,
Marius
9:47 a.m.
On 1 July 2011 15:28, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
urgh
The gallery2 website had a great upgrade system, with checks and
verifications and migrations that you could actually see the progress
of.
With xwiki, I am terrified of upgrading the system again... there is
no verification, no audit, no visible migration... I have no idea what
I'm missing and what pages are there that should not be.
For example, I turned on migrate=1 and exitAfterEnd=1, and started
jetty up, and ... the service never seemed to end. The site stayed
up and active. Does that mean the flag doesn't work? Or doesn't
migrate work?
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
I am struggling with a similar design issue in one of my projects. I
am currently thinking along the lines that:
* If there are a set of pages, keep them bundled together - don't
unwrap them. The moment you unwrap them, and someone modifies a page,
then you can't upgrade the package without stomping on the changes.
* Allow pages to be extracted if the user really wants to hack.
* Don't store configuration within pages that are part of an upgrade.
Instead, separate structure and data, and put the data in a
configuration file (or a configuration page that is NOT EVER
overwritten during an upgrade). Then, if there is an upgrade, add a
mechanism to upgrade the configuration file IF REQUIRED.
On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Ideally yes but that's not implemented at the moment.
We're introducing the notion of extension manager to manager extensions and as part
of it there'll be a notion of an application (ie a set of pages) and when an app is
installed or upgraded it'll have the ability to run some script.
On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing? On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
>> Hi again,
>>
>> I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import.
>>
>> If I go through the XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any
> packages...
>> the link is:
>>
>>
>
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
>>
>> However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there):
>> http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
>>
>> I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded.
>>
>> Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the
>> second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
> the
>> Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space)
>
> XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a
> fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
> XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
> is synchronized with
> http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
>
> XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said
> you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
> you have installed on top of 3.1.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Marius
>
>
I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1...
How can I find out where it came from?
The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't
modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there.
You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO.
How can I find
other pages are lingering?
You could compare the two XARs using either
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XAR+Diff+Application or the Admin
Tools which reuse this XAR Diff app code
(http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/AdminTools).
Note that at some point we wanted to list this in the
Release Notes but we've not been doing it diligently. I'd like us to do that
better in the future.
No, it says you should "be careful".
And, more importantly, next time I upgrade xwiki,
what is the correct
procedure to ensure that:
1) I do not have to reconfigure all my appearance configuration
You should not import XWikiPreferences, WebPreferences, etc. These are all indicated in
the upgrade instructions.
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HUpgrading…
From my POV, that means - take a screenshot and then
re-add all your
configuration later on.
Because, I'm sitting here thinking ... what if something in
XWikiPreferences has changed significantly (eg the layout looks
different from 2.6), and if I don't overwrite then something won't
work.
2) I do not
have to reconfigure my rights
Same
3) I do not leave crufty old pages around
See above. Note that pages that are left won't impact the execution of your wiki. If
they do they'd be mentioned in the release notes.
?
I do not understand how everyone else upgrades their xwiki... its
taken me 2 days and I'm still discovering things that shouldn't be
there (like this Import page)
Upgrading is still not an easy process. We're tacking this with the Extension
Manager, see
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ExtensionManager
9:55 a.m.
On 1 July 2011 15:47, Paul Harris <harris.pc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 1 July 2011 15:28, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
urgh
What I did was Imported and opened the latest 3.1.xar to see the contents.
What I found interesting is that there are a lot of pages (eg
Blog.BlogParameters) that are not listed in the Blog-Space-Index
Are these pages? How does one see the hidden pages?
thanks
Paul
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
I am struggling with a similar design issue in one of my projects. I
am currently thinking along the lines that:
* If there are a set of pages, keep them bundled together - don't
unwrap them. The moment you unwrap them, and someone modifies a page,
then you can't upgrade the package without stomping on the changes.
* Allow pages to be extracted if the user really wants to hack.
* Don't store configuration within pages that are part of an upgrade.
Instead, separate structure and data, and put the data in a
configuration file (or a configuration page that is NOT EVER
overwritten during an upgrade). Then, if there is an upgrade, add a
mechanism to upgrade the configuration file IF REQUIRED.
On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Ideally yes but that's not implemented at the moment.
We're introducing the notion of extension manager to manager extensions and as part
of it there'll be a notion of an application (ie a set of pages) and when an app is
installed or upgraded it'll have the ability to run some script.
On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
> On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
> <mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import.
>>>
>>> If I go through the XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any
>> packages...
>>> the link is:
>>>
>>>
>>
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
>>>
>>> However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there):
>>> http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
>>>
>>> I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded.
>>>
>>> Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the
>>> second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
>> the
>>> Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space)
>>
>> XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a
>> fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
>> XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
>> is synchronized with
>> http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
>>
>> XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said
>> you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
>> you have installed on top of 3.1.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Marius
>>
>>
> I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1...
>
> How can I find out where it came from?
The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't
modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there.
You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO.
Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing? How can I
find other pages are lingering?
You could compare the two XARs using either
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XAR+Diff+Application or the Admin
Tools which reuse this XAR Diff app code
(http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/AdminTools).
10:08 a.m.
On 1 July 2011 15:55, Paul Harris <harris.pc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 1 July 2011 15:47, Paul Harris
<harris.pc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I checked those diff tools... one of them says "only for developers!!
you must modify your webhome page" so I avoided that one.
I tried the AdminTools one, but both the Diff tools don't work. The
velocity-based one fails with a StringIndex = -1 and the groovy one
just shows the code, it doesn't actually run.
I tried to put the code into a page to make it go, but that didn't
seem to work either.
On 1 July 2011 15:28, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
urgh
What I did was Imported and opened the latest 3.1.xar to see the contents.
What I found interesting is that there are a lot of pages (eg
Blog.BlogParameters) that are not listed in the Blog-Space-Index
Are these pages? How does one see the hidden pages?
thanks
Paul
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
I am struggling with a similar design issue in one of my projects. I
am currently thinking along the lines that:
* If there are a set of pages, keep them bundled together - don't
unwrap them. The moment you unwrap them, and someone modifies a page,
then you can't upgrade the package without stomping on the changes.
* Allow pages to be extracted if the user really wants to hack.
* Don't store configuration within pages that are part of an upgrade.
Instead, separate structure and data, and put the data in a
configuration file (or a configuration page that is NOT EVER
overwritten during an upgrade). Then, if there is an upgrade, add a
mechanism to upgrade the configuration file IF REQUIRED.
On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
>
>> On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea
>> <mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote:
>>>> Hi again,
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import.
>>>>
>>>> If I go through the XWikiPreferences --> Import, I can't see any
>>> packages...
>>>> the link is:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladmin§…
>>>>
>>>> However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got
there):
>>>>
http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladmin§ion=Import
>>>>
>>>> I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded.
>>>>
>>>> Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the
>>>> second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via
>>> the
>>>> Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space)
>>>
>>> XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a
>>> fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to
>>> XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section
>>> is synchronized with
>>> http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments
>>>
>>> XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said
>>> you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that
>>> you have installed on top of 3.1.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Marius
>>>
>>>
>> I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1...
>>
>> How can I find out where it came from?
>
> The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't
modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there.
>
> You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO.
>
Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing?
Ideally yes but that's not implemented at the moment.
We're introducing the notion of extension manager to manager extensions and as part
of it there'll be a notion of an application (ie a set of pages) and when an app is
installed or upgraded it'll have the ability to run some script.
How can I
find other pages are lingering?
You could compare the two XARs using either
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XAR+Diff+Application or the Admin
Tools which reuse this XAR Diff app code
(http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/AdminTools).
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