Hi, We did some usability testing sessions and found out that one of the biggest problems users are facing is that they don't understand the Home - Wiki - Space - Page concepts. Because of this confusion: - they are creating a wiki instead of a space or a page, - they don't know where they are located when looking at a page (in the main wiki or in a subwiki), - they don't know how to navigate to the pages they've created, - very confused that we have a Main space in every wiki, - they are having a hard time making a difference between a space and an application, - hard to understand everything is a page, - etc. We could do many things in order to improve our navigation, but one thing I want us to focus in this mail thread is the explanation of Wiki - Space - Page concepts on the Main.WebHome. Currently the content of the Welcome Block is: = Welcome to your wiki = I would like to replace this message with an introductory text that explain the concepts (there were also some ideas that maybe we need some images to represent the hierarchy, etc.) and I need your opinion on this subject. So, how would you pitch the Wiki - Space - Page concepts to newcomers? Thanks, Caty _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

I don't like the idea of renaming space (again). If new people don't understand it easily, better we find an efficient way to educate them than to rename the concept so that old people won't understand it either. The tragedy of renaming things is that the code becomes unapproachable with surprises like XWD_WEB which only the well informed know is a table representing the names of *spaces* which once upon a time were known as *webs*. On 08/01/2014 09:47 AM, Jean SIMARD wrote: > Just a thought. It seems that the 'wiki - space - page' is a hard > concept to get; maybe it's too complex, maybe it's not intuitive. I > heard once that we should use 'folder' instead of 'space'. > > My thought is the following: do we need to explain a hard concept or do > we need to simplify it? > > However, 'simplifying' is probably a big work to do. In a short-term > action plan, a pitch to explain these concepts is a good idea. > -- > Jean > > On jeu., 2014-07-31 at 12:13 +0300, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We did some usability testing sessions and found out that one of the >> biggest problems users are facing is that they don't understand the Home - >> Wiki - Space - Page concepts. >> Because of this confusion: >> - they are creating a wiki instead of a space or a page, >> - they don't know where they are located when looking at a page (in the >> main wiki or in a subwiki), >> - they don't know how to navigate to the pages they've created, >> - very confused that we have a Main space in every wiki, >> - they are having a hard time making a difference between a space and an >> application, >> - hard to understand everything is a page, >> - etc. >> >> We could do many things in order to improve our navigation, but one thing I >> want us to focus in this mail thread is the explanation of Wiki - Space - >> Page concepts on the Main.WebHome. >> >> Currently the content of the Welcome Block is: >> >> = Welcome to your wiki = >>> >>> It's an easy-to-edit website that will help you work better together. This >>> Wiki is made of //pages// sorted by //spaces//. You're currently in the >>> **Main** space, looking at its home page (**WebHome**). >>> >>> Learn how to use XWiki with the [[Getting Started Guide]] >> >> >>> You can then use the [[Sandbox space]] to try out your wiki's features. >>> >> >> I would like to replace this message with an introductory text that explain >> the concepts (there were also some ideas that maybe we need some images to >> represent the hierarchy, etc.) and I need your opinion on this subject. >> >> So, how would you pitch the Wiki - Space - Page concepts to newcomers? >> >> Thanks, >> Caty