4 Nov
2013
4 Nov
'13
4:42 a.m.
Hi,
I've been using XWiki within my team at work and would like to expand
adoption of it across different groups. While doing research I was
thoroughly confused by the differences between Workspaces, SubWikis, Wikis,
multi-tenancy, etc...
What I would like to do is be able to run one instance of XWiki and be able
to create separate Wikis (in different schemas). Within each Wiki I'd like
to allow users to create their own Workspaces (I think I'm using that
correctly).
Example:
- IT Wiki
-- Bob's Workspace
-- Alice's Workspace
- Finance Wiki
-- Joe's Workspace
-- Jane's Workspace
I want to be able to keep the users separated between the IT Wiki and
Finance Wiki but allow shared users for the Workspaces under each of those
Wikis.
I think installing the Wiki Manager Application and Workspace Application
should do the trick. However, it sounds like Wiki Manager is the old way
of doing it and it's being deprecated.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
4 Nov
4 Nov
8:15 a.m.
On 04 Nov 2013, at 04:42, Ghanshyam Patel <zip159(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I've been using XWiki within my team at work and would like to expand
adoption of it across different groups. While doing research I was
thoroughly confused by the differences between Workspaces, SubWikis, Wikis,
multi-tenancy, etc…
They all mean roughyl the same thing and starting with 5.2 we’re merging all concepts
together. We’re removing the terminology “workspace” in favor of “wiki” (or “subwiki”).
What I would like to do is be able to run one instance
of XWiki and be able
to create separate Wikis (in different schemas). Within each Wiki I'd like
to allow users to create their own Workspaces (I think I'm using that
correctly).
Nope ;) A workspace is a subwiki with no local users (only global users).
Example:
- IT Wiki
-- Bob's Workspace
-- Alice's Workspace
- Finance Wiki
-- Joe's Workspace
-- Jane's Workspace
I want to be able to keep the users separated between the IT Wiki and
Finance Wiki but allow shared users for the Workspaces under each of those
Wikis.
I think installing the Wiki Manager Application and Workspace Application
should do the trick. However, it sounds like Wiki Manager is the old way
of doing it and it's being deprecated.
These are installed by default starting with 5.2.
There’s no notion of nested wikis though so what you wish to do is not possible.
What you can do is have a flat structure with 4 wikis:
- Bob IT wiki
- Alice IT wiki
- Joe Finance wiki
- Jane Finance wiki
or have 2 wikis with spaces:
- IT wiki
— Bob's **space**
— Alice's **space**
- Finance wiki
— Joe's **space**
— Jane's **space”
You should really use XWiki 5.2 (and 5.3 when it’s out since we’re currently working on
this topic to improve it), it makes all this simpler.
Now yes you’re right in that you can install Wiki Manager Application. Workspace
Application won’t help you since it create subwikis that use global users only.
Thanks
-Vincent
5:15 p.m.
Thanks for the information Vincent. It's cleared up some confusion.
I thought I was on the latest XWiki but looks like I'm on 5.1. I'll work
on upgrading to 5.2. In 5.2 are wikis stored in the same schema like
workspaces or does XWiki create a different schema for each? It sounds
like it'll still use the same architecture as workspaces but just renamed
to wiki.
From what I understand, it's not possible to run 2
Wikis on the same
instance with local users for each Wiki?
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On 04 Nov 2013, at 04:42, Ghanshyam Patel <zip159(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I've been using XWiki within my team at work and would like to expand
adoption of it across different groups. While doing research I was
thoroughly confused by the differences between Workspaces, SubWikis,
Wikis,
multi-tenancy, etc…
They all mean roughyl the same thing and starting with 5.2 we’re merging
all concepts together. We’re removing the terminology “workspace” in favor
of “wiki” (or “subwiki”).
What I would like to do is be able to run one
instance of XWiki and be
able
to create separate Wikis (in different schemas).
Within each Wiki I'd
like
to allow users to create their own Workspaces (I
think I'm using that
correctly).
Nope ;) A workspace is a subwiki with no local users (only global users).
Example:
- IT Wiki
-- Bob's Workspace
-- Alice's Workspace
- Finance Wiki
-- Joe's Workspace
-- Jane's Workspace
I want to be able to keep the users separated between the IT Wiki and
Finance Wiki but allow shared users for the Workspaces under each of
those
Wikis.
I think installing the Wiki Manager Application and Workspace Application
should do the trick. However, it sounds like Wiki Manager is the old way
of doing it and it's being deprecated.
These are installed by default starting with 5.2.
There’s no notion of nested wikis though so what you wish to do is not
possible.
What you can do is have a flat structure with 4 wikis:
- Bob IT wiki
- Alice IT wiki
- Joe Finance wiki
- Jane Finance wiki
or have 2 wikis with spaces:
- IT wiki
— Bob's **space**
— Alice's **space**
- Finance wiki
— Joe's **space**
— Jane's **space”
You should really use XWiki 5.2 (and 5.3 when it’s out since we’re
currently working on this topic to improve it), it makes all this simpler.
Now yes you’re right in that you can install Wiki Manager Application.
Workspace Application won’t help you since it create subwikis that use
global users only.
Thanks
-Vincent
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6 p.m.
Hi,
you hit just one of the items we're working on trying to make easier to
understand and use. This means that right now things are a bit in flux, and
not quite finished.
Right now you can run 2 wikis on the same instance with local users per
wiki. We're working so that this is still possible (and easier to achieve!)
by the end of the XWiki 5.x cycle, which will be XWiki Enterprise 5.5. That
release is scheduled for early next year, so if you can wait until then
you'll be able to avoid a couple upgrades.
Best,
Guillaume
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ghanshyam Patel <zip159(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the information Vincent. It's cleared
up some confusion.
I thought I was on the latest XWiki but looks like I'm on 5.1. I'll work
on upgrading to 5.2. In 5.2 are wikis stored in the same schema like
workspaces or does XWiki create a different schema for each? It sounds
like it'll still use the same architecture as workspaces but just renamed
to wiki.
From what I understand, it's not possible to run 2 Wikis on the same
instance with local users for each Wiki?
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
simpler.
On 04 Nov 2013, at 04:42, Ghanshyam Patel <zip159(a)gmail.com> wrote:
favor
Hi,
I've been using XWiki within my team at work and would like to expand
adoption of it across different groups. While doing research I was
thoroughly confused by the differences between Workspaces, SubWikis,
Wikis,
multi-tenancy, etc…
They all mean roughyl the same thing and starting with 5.2 we’re merging
all concepts together. We’re removing the terminology “workspace” in of “wiki” (or “subwiki”).
Application
What I would like to do is be able to run one
instance of XWiki and be
able
to create separate Wikis (in different schemas).
Within each Wiki I'd
like
to allow users to create their own Workspaces (I
think I'm using that
correctly).
Nope ;) A workspace is a subwiki with no local users (only global users).
Example:
- IT Wiki
-- Bob's Workspace
-- Alice's Workspace
- Finance Wiki
-- Joe's Workspace
-- Jane's Workspace
I want to be able to keep the users separated between the IT Wiki and
Finance Wiki but allow shared users for the Workspaces under each of
those
> Wikis.
>
> I think installing the Wiki Manager Application and Workspace > should do the trick. However, it sounds
like Wiki Manager is the old
way
of doing
it and it's being deprecated.
These are installed by default starting with 5.2.
There’s no notion of nested wikis though so what you wish to do is not
possible.
What you can do is have a flat structure with 4 wikis:
- Bob IT wiki
- Alice IT wiki
- Joe Finance wiki
- Jane Finance wiki
or have 2 wikis with spaces:
- IT wiki
— Bob's **space**
— Alice's **space**
- Finance wiki
— Joe's **space**
— Jane's **space”
You should really use XWiki 5.2 (and 5.3 when it’s out since we’re
currently working on this topic to improve it), it makes all this
Now yes you’re right in that you can install Wiki Manager Application.
Workspace Application won’t help you since it create subwikis that use
global users only.
Thanks
-Vincent
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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8:49 p.m.
Hi, Guillaume
Понедельник, 4 ноября 2013, 18:00 +01:00 от Guillaume Lerouge
<guillaume(a)xwiki.com>om>:
Hi,
you hit just one of the items we're working on trying to make easier to
understand and use. This means that right now things are a bit in flux, and
not quite finished.
Right now you can run 2 wikis on the same instance with local users per
wiki. We're working so that this is still possible (and easier to achieve!)
by the end of the XWiki 5.x cycle, which will be XWiki Enterprise 5.5. That
release is scheduled for early next year, so if you can wait until then
you'll be able to avoid a couple upgrades.
Does it mean that Workspace Manager
and Wiki manager will be combined in one application?
Best,
Guillaume
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ghanshyam Patel < zip159(a)gmail.com > wrote:
Kind regards,
Dmitry
Thanks for the information Vincent. It's
cleared up some confusion.
I thought I was on the latest XWiki but looks like I'm on 5.1. I'll work
on upgrading to 5.2. In 5.2 are wikis stored in the same schema like
workspaces or does XWiki create a different schema for each? It sounds
like it'll still use the same architecture as workspaces but just renamed
to wiki.
From what I understand, it's not possible to run 2 Wikis on the same
instance with local users for each Wiki?
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Vincent Massol < vincent(a)massol.net > wrote:
simpler.
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On 04 Nov 2013, at 04:42, Ghanshyam Patel < zip159(a)gmail.com > wrote:
favor
Hi,
I've been using XWiki within my team at work and would like to expand
adoption of it across different groups. While doing research I was
thoroughly confused by the differences between Workspaces, SubWikis,
Wikis,
multi-tenancy, etc…
They all mean roughyl the same thing and starting with 5.2 we’re merging
all concepts together. We’re removing the terminology “workspace” in of “wiki” (or “subwiki”).
Application
What I would like to do is be able to run one
instance of XWiki and be
able
to create separate Wikis (in different schemas).
Within each Wiki I'd
like
to allow users to create their own Workspaces (I
think I'm using that
correctly).
Nope ;) A workspace is a subwiki with no local users (only global users).
Example:
- IT Wiki
-- Bob's Workspace
-- Alice's Workspace
- Finance Wiki
-- Joe's Workspace
-- Jane's Workspace
I want to be able to keep the users separated between the IT Wiki and
Finance Wiki but allow shared users for the Workspaces under each of
those
> Wikis.
>
> I think installing the Wiki Manager Application and Workspace > should do the trick. However, it sounds
like Wiki Manager is the old
way
of doing
it and it's being deprecated.
These are installed by default starting with 5.2.
There’s no notion of nested wikis though so what you wish to do is not
possible.
What you can do is have a flat structure with 4 wikis:
- Bob IT wiki
- Alice IT wiki
- Joe Finance wiki
- Jane Finance wiki
or have 2 wikis with spaces:
- IT wiki
— Bob's **space**
— Alice's **space**
- Finance wiki
— Joe's **space**
— Jane's **space”
You should really use XWiki 5.2 (and 5.3 when it’s out since we’re
currently working on this topic to improve it), it makes all this
Now yes you’re right in that you can install Wiki Manager Application.
Workspace Application won’t help you since it create subwikis that use
global users only.
Thanks
-Vincent
_______________________________________________
users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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5 Nov
5 Nov
10:37 a.m.
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Dmitry Bakbardin <haru_mamburu(a)mail.ru>wrote;wrote:
Hi, Guillaume
Понедельник, 4 ноября 2013, 18:00 +01:00 от Guillaume Lerouge <
guillaume(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
Yes.
See the proposal here:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/MultiWiki
Especially the part about wiki creation here:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/CreateWikiImprovem…
Thanks,
Guillaume
Hi,
you hit just one of the items we're working on trying to make easier to
understand and use. This means that right now things are a bit in flux,
and
not quite finished.
Right now you can run 2 wikis on the same instance with local users per
wiki. We're working so that this is still possible (and easier to
achieve!)
by the end of the XWiki 5.x cycle, which will be
XWiki Enterprise 5.5.
That
release is scheduled for early next year, so if
you can wait until then
you'll be able to avoid a couple upgrades.
Does it mean that Workspace Manager
and Wiki manager will be combined in
one application?
Best,
Kind regards,
Dmitry
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users mailing list
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Guillaume
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ghanshyam Patel < zip159(a)gmail.com >
wrote:
> Thanks for the information Vincent. It's cleared up some confusion.
>
> I thought I was on the latest XWiki but looks like I'm on 5.1. I'll
work
> on upgrading to 5.2. In 5.2 are wikis stored
in the same schema like
> workspaces or does XWiki create a different schema for each? It sounds
> like it'll still use the same architecture as workspaces but just
renamed
> to wiki.
>
> From what I understand, it's not possible to run 2 Wikis on the same
> instance with local users for each Wiki?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Vincent Massol < vincent(a)massol.net >
wrote:
>
> >
> > On 04 Nov 2013, at 04:42, Ghanshyam Patel < zip159(a)gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've been using XWiki within my team at work and would like to
expand
> > > adoption of it across different
groups. While doing research I was
> > > thoroughly confused by the differences between Workspaces, SubWikis,
> > Wikis,
> > > multi-tenancy, etc…
> >
> > They all mean roughyl the same thing and starting with 5.2 we’re
merging
> > all concepts together. We’re removing
the terminology “workspace” in
> favor
> > of “wiki” (or “subwiki”).
> >
> > > What I would like to do is be able to run one instance of XWiki and
be
> > able
> > > to create separate Wikis (in different schemas). Within each Wiki
I'd
> > like
> > > to allow users to create their own Workspaces (I think I'm using
that
> > > correctly).
> >
> > Nope ;) A workspace is a subwiki with no local users (only global
users).
> >
> > > Example:
> > > - IT Wiki
> > > -- Bob's Workspace
> > > -- Alice's Workspace
> > >
> > > - Finance Wiki
> > > -- Joe's Workspace
> > > -- Jane's Workspace
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to be able to keep the users separated between the IT Wiki
and
> > > Finance Wiki but allow shared users
for the Workspaces under each of
> > those
> > > Wikis.
> > >
> > > I think installing the Wiki Manager Application and Workspace
> Application
> > > should do the trick. However, it sounds like Wiki Manager is the
old
way
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users mailing list
users(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > of doing it and it's being deprecated.
These are installed by default starting with 5.2.
There’s no notion of nested wikis though so what you wish to do is not
possible.
What you can do is have a flat structure with 4 wikis:
- Bob IT wiki
- Alice IT wiki
- Joe Finance wiki
- Jane Finance wiki
or have 2 wikis with spaces:
- IT wiki
— Bob's **space**
— Alice's **space**
- Finance wiki
— Joe's **space**
— Jane's **space”
You should really use XWiki 5.2 (and 5.3 when it’s out since we’re
currently working on this topic to improve it), it makes all this
simpler.
Now yes you’re right in that you can install Wiki Manager Application.
Workspace Application won’t help you since it create subwikis that use
global users only.
Thanks
-Vincent
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