Hi guys, I just finished repackaging the realtime collaborative editor which was developed as part of wiki/3.0. It is now installable as an extension. It's still a bit rough around the edges but it's pretty safe to play with so everyone is invited to give it a try. * Multiple users can edit the same document at the same time and their changes are merged in real time. * The "RealTime Wiki" editor is an option along side WYSIWYG and Wiki so it won't break existing editors. * Easy installation by copying a .jar file and importing a .xar file, removal is simply deleting 2 XDocuments. http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor Please feel free to share your experiences in the mailing list, on the extension wiki page and on the github bug tracker. Thanks, Caleb

Hi Caleb, Ok I've played with it, very cool! :) Some next steps: * Make it a real extension installable with the Extension Manager: ** Move the project to xwiki-contrib and release a first 1.0 version of the JAR and XAR in the xwiki maven repo for contrib Slightly later: * Add an Extension Point for the Edit menu and transform the JS Skin extension into a UI Extension Of course in term of the editor itself there are a few things to improve. Some ideas: * Release the lock only when all the editors have either cancelled or saved the document so that someone who edits in wiki mode gets a lock dialog box if someone is still editing it * See who's editing + colors to differentiate users * Use a textarea similar to the wiki editor one (no line number, same font, etc) Thanks -Vincent On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> wrote: developed as part of wiki/3.0. the edges but it's pretty safe to changes are merged in real time. so it won't break existing editors. removal is simply deleting 2 XDocuments. http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor extension wiki page and on the _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

Hi Caleb, This is great progress ! Way to go. Some improvements, sorted by priority from my POV: - Support real-time editing on an object Textarea field - The current textarea does not allow to do a select All of the text - XEM compatibility either as an extension for the global wiki, or as a template based install (right now you have to install the XAR in each wiki) - Install through extension manager - See who's editing - Auto-saving - Handling merging if there has been a concurrent editing - Support a live switch from wiki editing to real-time editing Ludovic 2012/10/17 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> -- Ludovic Dubost Founder and CEO Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/ XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost

Hi, Thanks for the complement. I just updated it and fixed issue #1. Thanks for reporting it. Somehow showing who else is editing, showing where they are editing in the document and allowing the user to spawn a chat window with other editors on the page are all interesting possibilities. Right now I think the thing to do is decide where there is the most bang for your buck in terms of feature value and get an idea of what's most natural for the user. Thanks, Caleb On 10/19/2012 07:59 AM, Ryszard Łach wrote: _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

One other thing, please report the features which you want and what you imagine as best on the github tracker, it's easier to close an issue as "won't fix" than it is to remember an important issue which nobody wrote down ;) Thanks Caleb On 10/22/2012 10:14 PM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote: _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

2012/10/23 Caleb James DeLisle <calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> While of course it would be interesting to handle every form field of an inline edit, this is not critical. What's interesting is to be able to launch a realtime session on a textarea field only. Now there is an issue since we don't have the same options to switch between modes on a textarea field, which is configured to go to Wysiwyg or Wiki based on configuration. Even the Wysiwyg field does not have the "Source" switch (which is a bit of an issue as sometimes you would need to switch to source). But this is a separate issue. We can do one of the following: 1/ Add a button to launch a realtime session which would be able to unload the wysiwyg (if present) and launch realtime 2/ Support parameters that would switch to realtime. Not we already have the "xeditmode=text" parameter which force loading wiki instead of wysiwyg. So you could just make sure that http:// .../inline/...?xeditmode=text#Realtime would launch realtime on the first textarea field (or even on all fields). Ludovic of wrote: their Wiki file, http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RealTime+Wiki+Editor the -- Ludovic Dubost Founder and CEO Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/ XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

I agree. I'd fill a feature request on jira, but I'm not sure what project should I fill it against.... maybe that's also the reason for Caleb to use github?

R. On 23.10.2012 09:19, Ludovic Dubost wrote: > Just a quick. You seem to introduce a practice to use the github tracker instead of xwiki.org jira's > > Not sure it's a good thing. I'm sure Vincent will agree > > Ludovic > > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > Le 23 oct. 2012 à 04:17, Caleb James DeLisle <calebdelisle(a)lavabit.com> a écrit : > >> One other thing, please report the features which you want and what you imagine as >> best on the github tracker, it's easier to close an issue as "won't fix" than it is >> to remember an important issue which nobody wrote down ;) >> >> Thanks >> Caleb >> >> On 10/22/2012 10:14 PM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Thanks for the complement. >>> >>> I just updated it and fixed issue #1. Thanks for reporting it. >>> Somehow showing who else is editing, showing where they are editing in the document >>> and allowing the user to spawn a chat window with other editors on the page are all >>> interesting possibilities. Right now I think the thing to do is decide where there >>> is the most bang for your buck in terms of feature value and get an idea of what's >>> most natural for the user. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Caleb >>> >>> >>> On 10/19/2012 07:59 AM, Ryszard Łach wrote: >>>> Great work! >>>> >>>> It looks like good starting point to give xwiki the main (at least for >>>> me) feature, that makes googledoc sometimes more suitable for >>>> collaborative editing. It would be really great, if your editor would >>>> show somehow, where the other editor (person) is now, where is his >>>> cursor. Maybe a highlight (the whole line) showing the other's cursor >>>> placement? >>>> Do you plan to work on such improvements? >>>> >>>> R.

Caleb, I've installed a brand new 4.3M1 with this editor add-on and configured it. It looks real nice and fast. I was about to announce my installation to my partners but then realized that users need to be advanced otherwise they are offered a single edit link and not a menu. Is there a way to make "advanced" the default? Or allow all users to have all edit options? Or add the real-time editor as a tab? thanks in advance Paul Le 17 oct. 2012 à 07:12, Caleb James DeLisle a écrit : _______________________________________________ users mailing list users(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users