15 Sep
2011
15 Sep
'11
12:56 p.m.
Thanks for hint Vincent, these options are indeed possible and I considered
them (didn't know that svn integration is already available). But trick is
to not break usability. So that you can just switch between "tagged" content
and "trunk" without a need to overwrite "trunk" by imported XAR, or
update
to revision from svn, or have another server for deploying tags as this will
definitely provoke conflicts.
For simple user that's it: switch mode, navigate in tagged/baselined
content. I guess it may not even require version control system like svn
underneath if we have all history in database anyway.
Is it in general possible to introduce such a feature that will for all
read-only actions (view, export) provide only "tagged" content? If possible
how much efforts may it need?
Did someone else experience a need in such a feature for a groupware (which
wiki belongs to as for me)?
Regards,
Andrey
On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Crowd Covered wrote:
Hi xwiki people,
Is there a possibility to have something like tags or baselines for
complete
wiki or particular space? What I mean is
possibility to use the power of
navigation between pages as usual with condition that all pages revision
in
this mode would belong to this "tag" or
just have modification date not
later than specified.
I have noticed "SVN Integration (make it possible to store and edit wiki
pages in SVN)" in Survey on XWiki Features (
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures), but this
topic looks obsolete as last modification was done in January 2010.
Background is that my team currently uses xwiki for requirements
management
on a software project and it is vital to have
baselines. Alternatively
export to PDF/RTF could be used, but firstly it refuses to handle some of
pages as is (we've created several classes with customized sheets), and
secondly it would require intensive tailoring of output to get nice
laconic
document (exclude pages that are not relevant,
make headers correct
relevantly to hierarchy, etc.)
I see 2 options:
* Use the existing SVN integration:
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVN+Application
* Export the wiki as a XAR export (it''ll you one XAR file which is a zip
file containing the full wiki which can be imported in a XWiki instance at
any time to have a running tagged documentation) when you need to tag.
Hope it helps,
-Vincent
Greetz,
Andrey Stoliarov
15 Sep
15 Sep
1:06 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Tag/baseline for wiki or space
On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Crowd Covered wrote:
Thanks for hint Vincent, these options are indeed
possible and I considered
them (didn't know that svn integration is already available). But trick is
to not break usability. So that you can just switch between "tagged" content
and "trunk" without a need to overwrite "trunk" by imported XAR, or
update
to revision from svn, or have another server for deploying tags as this will
definitely provoke conflicts.
For simple user that's it: switch mode, navigate in tagged/baselined
content. I guess it may not even require version control system like svn
underneath if we have all history in database anyway.
Is it in general possible to introduce such a feature that will for all
read-only actions (view, export) provide only "tagged" content? If possible
how much efforts may it need?
Did someone else experience a need in such a feature for a groupware (which
wiki belongs to as for me)?
What I'd do is the following:
- install XEM (Enterprise Manager)
- when you're ready to set a tag/branch, copy the main wiki into a subwiki (using
Enterprise Manager it's easy) and give a meaningful name that includes the tag or
version in the name
- have a page on the main wiki to point to the various tags/versions of the
documentation.
-Vincent
Regards,
Andrey
On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Crowd Covered wrote:
>
>> Hi xwiki people,
>>
>> Is there a possibility to have something like tags or baselines for
> complete
>> wiki or particular space? What I mean is possibility to use the power of
>> navigation between pages as usual with condition that all pages revision
> in
>> this mode would belong to this "tag" or just have modification date
not
>> later than specified.
>>
>> I have noticed "SVN Integration (make it possible to store and edit wiki
>> pages in SVN)" in Survey on XWiki Features (
>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures), but this
>> topic looks obsolete as last modification was done in January 2010.
>>
>> Background is that my team currently uses xwiki for requirements
> management
>> on a software project and it is vital to have baselines. Alternatively
>> export to PDF/RTF could be used, but firstly it refuses to handle some of
>> pages as is (we've created several classes with customized sheets), and
>> secondly it would require intensive tailoring of output to get nice
> laconic
>> document (exclude pages that are not relevant, make headers correct
>> relevantly to hierarchy, etc.)
>
> I see 2 options:
>
> * Use the existing SVN integration:
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVN+Application
> * Export the wiki as a XAR export (it''ll you one XAR file which is a zip
> file containing the full wiki which can be imported in a XWiki instance at
> any time to have a running tagged documentation) when you need to tag.
>
> Hope it helps,
> -Vincent
>
>> Greetz,
>> Andrey Stoliarov
1:08 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Tag/baseline for wiki or space
On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Crowd Covered wrote:
One last note. I've sent a proposal a few days ago to have global versioning in XE
which would help solving this use case too but 1) it's not yet decided if we want it
and 2) it's going to a bit of time before someone gets to implement it.
See http://markmail.org/thread/hpirb77bzxhmocvo for more details.
Thanks
-Vincent
Thanks for hint Vincent, these options are indeed
possible and I considered
them (didn't know that svn integration is already available). But trick is
to not break usability. So that you can just switch between "tagged" content
and "trunk" without a need to overwrite "trunk" by imported XAR, or
update
to revision from svn, or have another server for deploying tags as this will
definitely provoke conflicts.
For simple user that's it: switch mode, navigate in tagged/baselined
content. I guess it may not even require version control system like svn
underneath if we have all history in database anyway.
Is it in general possible to introduce such a feature that will for all
read-only actions (view, export) provide only "tagged" content? If possible
how much efforts may it need?
Did someone else experience a need in such a feature for a groupware (which
wiki belongs to as for me)?
What I'd do is the following:
- install XEM (Enterprise Manager)
- when you're ready to set a tag/branch, copy the main wiki into a subwiki (using
Enterprise Manager it's easy) and give a meaningful name that includes the tag or
version in the name
- have a page on the main wiki to point to the various tags/versions of the
documentation. -Vincent
> Regards,
> Andrey
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Crowd Covered wrote:
>>
>>> Hi xwiki people,
>>>
>>> Is there a possibility to have something like tags or baselines for
>> complete
>>> wiki or particular space? What I mean is possibility to use the power of
>>> navigation between pages as usual with condition that all pages revision
>> in
>>> this mode would belong to this "tag" or just have modification date
not
>>> later than specified.
>>>
>>> I have noticed "SVN Integration (make it possible to store and edit
wiki
>>> pages in SVN)" in Survey on XWiki Features (
>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures), but this
>>> topic looks obsolete as last modification was done in January 2010.
>>>
>>> Background is that my team currently uses xwiki for requirements
>> management
>>> on a software project and it is vital to have baselines. Alternatively
>>> export to PDF/RTF could be used, but firstly it refuses to handle some of
>>> pages as is (we've created several classes with customized sheets), and
>>> secondly it would require intensive tailoring of output to get nice
>> laconic
>>> document (exclude pages that are not relevant, make headers correct
>>> relevantly to hierarchy, etc.)
>>
>> I see 2 options:
>>
>> * Use the existing SVN integration:
>> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVN+Application
>> * Export the wiki as a XAR export (it''ll you one XAR file which is a
zip
>> file containing the full wiki which can be imported in a XWiki instance at
>> any time to have a running tagged documentation) when you need to tag.
>>
>> Hope it helps,
>> -Vincent
>>
>>> Greetz,
>>> Andrey Stoliarov
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