Hi,
In order to implement http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/
XTSHAREDTESTS-12 I need to solve a cyclic dependency it creates:
org.xwiki.platform:xwiki-core-url -->
com.xpn.xwiki.platform.tools:xwiki-shared-tests -->
org.xwiki.platform:xwiki-core-container-api -->
org.xwiki.platform:xwiki-core-url
I don't see a good solution other than spliting xwiki-core-url into 2
modules (in order to solve the cyclic dep)
assumptions:
- we need Container in shared tests as otherwise it's going to be a
pain for all tests
- using reflection in shared tests would mean making sure to have deps
on container api in all tests modules
- modifying url module to not use shared tests is a bit of a pain and
not right IMO
- moving XWikiURL to Container API doens't seem right either-
- removing Request.getURL() is not right either and it's used in xwiki-
action anyway
It could be a good idea anyway to separate all modules into 2: api +
implementation. However for practical reasons I don't think we'll do
that, it's too much of a pain and will result in too many jars.
So it's a bit strange to do it for xwiki-url and not for others but
again I don't see solutions right now....
If nobody shouts I'd like to commit the url module split quickly
(since I have it done and it's blocking me on some other issue).
Thanks
-Vincent
http://xwiki.comhttp://xwiki.orghttp://massol.net
Hi,
I'd like to clarify the strategy I'd like to propose that we use for
JIRA fix for values since we haven't been very consistent about this
in the past.
Proposed rules:
* We put all "fix for" for all places the commits have been done. If
the commit has been done on 3 locations then we need 3 fix for values.
For ex right now if you commit on trunk + in 1.8 branch you need fix
for for *both* 1.8RC2 and 1.9M1.
* In the release notes on xwiki.org we only put issues that haven't
been already released in past versions. So when 1.9 M1 release notes
are written you should exclude 1.8RC2 issues since they would have
been released already (1.8RC2 is planned before 1.9M1).
WDYT?
If we agree can everyone check his jira issues and correct the fix for
values?
Thanks
-Vincent
http://xwiki.comhttp://xwiki.orghttp://massol.net
Good suggestions Ecaterina. Thanks.
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:23:43 +0200
From: Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Adding a feedback survey on
XWiki.org
To: XWiki Developers <devs(a)xwiki.org>
Message-ID:
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hi. I have some suggestions:
1. You need numbering - you don't have a clear separation between
questions. (1, 2, ... )
2. 5 - "exceptional" - the word is a bit to much. Also the word
"dazzled".
3. You need to decide if you want to write everywhere in the survey "Web
site" or "website" - I'd recommend website (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website).
4. "Are you satisfied with the quantity/quality of *information*?" - what
information? Is too general. you could specify -> "the information on our
site regarding ... "
5. I'd suggest replacing "*the* website" with "*our *website" to show
that is not an ordinary website, that you care :) for the website
Emilie - great work - I really want to see the results for the survey
Arf...
Thanks Vincent.
Here is the new link:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/SatisfactionSurveyProducts
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:19:48 +0100
> From: Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
> Subject: Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Adding a feedback survey on XWiki
> products
> To: XWiki Developers <devs(a)xwiki.org>
> Message-ID: <026485EA-AFD9-49E5-90F3-98475D5E1A05(a)massol.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Emilie Ogez wrote:
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have started to list questions that could be part of the
>> satisfaction
>> survey about the XWiki products :
>> http://intranet.xpertnet.biz/xwiki/bin/view/XWikiOrgWebsite/XWikiOrgWebsite
>>
>
> People don't have access to that web site...
> You can use the draft space on dev.xwiki.org
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
>
>
>> I propose to get first feedback about XWiki Enterprise and XWiki
>> Enterprise Manager. So, I have made two different forms. But:
>> 1) maybe, one form can be sufficient.
>> 2) the questions in each form can be different.
>>
>> Again, I'd like your feedback about it/them.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help and your time.
>>
>> Emilie
>>
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
> http://xwiki.com
> http://xwiki.org
> http://massol.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:35:52 +0100
> From: Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
> Subject: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] New XE 1.8 Release dates
> To: XWiki Developers <devs(a)xwiki.org>
> Message-ID: <AE34089C-A97B-47A3-A8E4-91909B33DED4(a)massol.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Hi,
>
> New proposed dates that take into account the lag in the WYSIWYG dev
> for the 1.8 final release.
>
> * 1.8 RC2 - Stays on 2nd of March
> * 1.8 RC3 - 12th of March
> * 1.8 final - 16th March
>
> It would be time boxed, ie we release on the 12th whatever we have
> finished on the 11th night. This should allow us to finish most of the
> new WYSIWYG stuff. Let us know on the wysiwyg side if anything is at
> risk as you progress.
>
> Here's my +1
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
> http://xwiki.com
> http://xwiki.org
> http://massol.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:59:09 +0200
> From: Marius Dumitru Florea <mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>
> Subject: Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] New XE 1.8 Release dates
> To: XWiki Developers <devs(a)xwiki.org>
> Message-ID: <49A7E39D.2010702(a)xwiki.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> +1. I'm almost done with macro editing. Macro insertion (browsing
> available macros mainly) is next. I'm confident we'll have macro support
> ready by 11th March. I might even have time to fix some bugs (there are
> 10 assigned to me right now).
>
> Thanks,
> Marius
>
> Vincent Massol wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> New proposed dates that take into account the lag in the WYSIWYG dev
>> for the 1.8 final release.
>>
>> * 1.8 RC2 - Stays on 2nd of March
>> * 1.8 RC3 - 12th of March
>> * 1.8 final - 16th March
>>
>> It would be time boxed, ie we release on the 12th whatever we have
>> finished on the 11th night. This should allow us to finish most of the
>> new WYSIWYG stuff. Let us know on the wysiwyg side if anything is at
>> risk as you progress.
>>
>> Here's my +1
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> http://xwiki.com
>> http://xwiki.org
>> http://massol.net
Hi,
New proposed dates that take into account the lag in the WYSIWYG dev
for the 1.8 final release.
* 1.8 RC2 - Stays on 2nd of March
* 1.8 RC3 - 12th of March
* 1.8 final - 16th March
It would be time boxed, ie we release on the 12th whatever we have
finished on the 11th night. This should allow us to finish most of the
new WYSIWYG stuff. Let us know on the wysiwyg side if anything is at
risk as you progress.
Here's my +1
Thanks
-Vincent
http://xwiki.comhttp://xwiki.orghttp://massol.net
Hello,
I have started to list questions that could be part of the satisfaction
survey about the XWiki products :
http://intranet.xpertnet.biz/xwiki/bin/view/XWikiOrgWebsite/XWikiOrgWebsite
I propose to get first feedback about XWiki Enterprise and XWiki
Enterprise Manager. So, I have made two different forms. But:
1) maybe, one form can be sufficient.
2) the questions in each form can be different.
Again, I'd like your feedback about it/them.
Thanks in advance for your help and your time.
Emilie
Hello,
Thanks for your feedback and your suggestions.
I have made modifications in the survey. Here is the last version:
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Survey
What do you think about it?
Thanks.
Emilie
On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
>/ Hi Emilie,
/>/
/>/ Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
/>>/ Emilie Ogez wrote:
/>>>/ Hello,
/>>>/
/>>>/ My name is Émilie Ogez. I am the marketing and communication
/>>>/ manager at
/>>>/ XWiki SAS (the company supporting the XWiki.org Open-Source
/>>>/ project).
/>>>/
/>>>/ I've given a look at the current XWiki.org website and I think
/>>>/ there's
/>>>/ room for improvement. I'd be glad to:
/>>>/
/>>>/ * help improving the design and content of the XWiki.org website
/>>>/ * suggest animation ideas for the XWiki Developers community
/>>>/ * help improving XWiki products by gathering user feedback
/>>>/
/>>>/ In order to do this, I would like to publish 2 online surveys on
/>>>/ XWiki.org:
/>>>/
/>>>/ * a survey asking users about what they think of the current
/>>>/ XWiki.org website (do they find content easily, is it
/>>>/ intuitive to
/>>>/ use)
/>>>/ * a survey asking users about how they're using XWiki products
/>>>/ and
/>>>/ how we could improve our product range
/>>>/
/>>>/ I started with the survey about XWiki.org. I'd like to send it to
/>>>/ people
/>>>/ from the Devs & Users list and to make it available to XWiki.org
/>>>/ visitors. Survey answers would help us improve the website and
/>>>/ make it
/>>>/ more effective and attractive for the XWiki.org community.
/>>>/
/>>>/ Here's the survey contents I suggest:
/>>>/ http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Survey. I'd be glad to
/>>>/ get your
/>>>/ feedback about it about it before putting it online.
/>>/
/>>/ The yes/no options should not be checkboxes, but radio buttons.
/>>/
/>>/ Apart from quantity and quality, we should also ask about the
/>>/ information organization, ease of use, ease of access.
/>/
/>/ I agree with Sergiu. I too think the survey should have more questions
/>/ and maybe we should let users give marks (from 1-bad to 5-exceptional,
/>/ or something similar) and not just yes/no answers. I'm not a survey
/>/ expert though.
/
I agree with Marius you should never ask for yes/no (you won't know
what to do with the result) but a scale of 1-5 instead.
Thanks
-Vincent
http://xwiki.comhttp://xwiki.orghttp://massol.net
Hello,
My name is Émilie Ogez. I am the marketing and communication manager at
XWiki SAS (the company supporting the XWiki.org Open-Source project).
I've given a look at the current XWiki.org website and I think there's
room for improvement. I'd be glad to:
* help improving the design and content of the XWiki.org website
* suggest animation ideas for the XWiki Developers community
* help improving XWiki products by gathering user feedback
In order to do this, I would like to publish 2 online surveys on XWiki.org:
* a survey asking users about what they think of the current
XWiki.org website (do they find content easily, is it intuitive to
use)
* a survey asking users about how they're using XWiki products and
how we could improve our product range
I started with the survey about XWiki.org. I'd like to send it to people
from the Devs & Users list and to make it available to XWiki.org
visitors. Survey answers would help us improve the website and make it
more effective and attractive for the XWiki.org community.
Here's the survey contents I suggest:
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Survey. I'd be glad to get your
feedback about it about it before putting it online.
Thanks,
Émilie