Hi Marius,
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Guillaume Lerouge
<guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
 wrote:
  Hi again,
 On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
 gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> Hi Eddy,
>
> 2014-09-25 11:59 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > I`m not sure if we already have a discussion started on this topic, 
 but
 > in
> > my opinion, it's long overdue. I see people start being confused and
> > questions like this [1] start to be asked.
> >
> > The new location of the Add menu in Flamingo is problematic IMO for a
> > various number of reasons:
> > - It falsely gives the impression that it adds page-related entries 
 (i.e.
    related to the current page), due to its current
location (i.e. in the 
 page
  content)
 - It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new Entry" button 
    
  More generally speaking, this is true for a lot
of livetables. We would
 need a generic "Create" button to be available when we instantiate a
 livetable. This could be useful for the wiki index page, for the user
 directory, for all the AWM homepages... 
 I guess you like the files live table from the File Manager then :)
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Applicati…
 . Would be interesting to have such a toolbar (with support for custom
 buttons) before the live table don't you think?
 
Yes and yes :-)
Guillaume
   Basically the
button would let the user create a new item of the same 
 type
  than the items displayed in the livetable. Right
now we do this in an
 ad-hoc fashion, so it would be great to have a generic solution. It's 
 also
  related to the automatic page name generation
module (that we don't have 
 in
  the core yet, though there's an extensions
doing it
 < 
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Unique+Identification+…
 ).
 Guillaume
> > - from my POV, looking at the page from a far, the new location looks
> > completely randomly selected:
> > -- It's not on the left/top (as left-to-right language specific brains
> are
> > trained to follow)
> > -- it's not exactly at the top either
> > -- it's not at the right
> > -- it's not next to the type of elements it creates (i.e. next to
> > WIKI/SPACE/PAGE)
> > -- it basically is almost in the middle of the screen
> > - etc. (i.e. others that don`t come right now to my mind)
> >
>
> Personally, I like the fact that it is located near the Edit button, 
 even
 > if it does not concern the current page.
Because it groups the most 
 basic
 > and useful actions that you need when you
want to contribute: EDIT, ADD.
>
> To me, it makes sense.
>
>
> >
> > I`d like to open a discussion on this, since it's quite an important
> aspect
> > of the UI and, due to it's shiny green color (which I like :)), it`s 
hard
 > > to miss.
> >
> > Is it just me who's resistant to change, or do others see a problem 
here
    with this as well?
 Thanks,
 Eduard
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http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/rqcxryksa2ckjhpm
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