I should agree with Vincent. The reason IE8 is still in use is mostly
because it is the latest MS browser for Windows XP. I know that XP will be
EoL very soon, but while MS has taken that decision, the current market
share of Windows XP is still quite large. I hope the EoL will speed up a
bit the migration process, but not enough for dropping IE8 now.
It could be a project for the 7.x release if the regression of IE8 is
confirmed.
While it requires a bit of adaptation, bootstrap 3 support IE8, so I do not
see why we would need to stop supporting IE8 for the new skin. Obviously,
the design under IE8 will be a bit degraded. Supporting IE8 does not
prevent us from using latest HTML5/CSS3 features, if IE8 degrade nicely.
And there is no real need to be responsive on IE8, since no mobile device
use it.
So I am currently -1 for this change.
Thanks,
PS: I am far more concerned by the JS conflict issue we have between
Bootstrap, JQuery and Prototype.
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>wrote;wrote:
-0 at this stage from me. IMO we need to first
question our xwiki users
and do a more thorough survey to understand who’s using XWiki with IE8 and
how they’d feel if we dropped support for it.
According to
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-201309-201402-bar,
IE8 is one of the top IE versions used by users so it seems a bit early to
take a decision right now about this.
Since XWiki is an Enterprise software it’s all the more important to
verify that Enterprises are ready to drop IE8 before taking that decision
IMO.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 11 Mar 2014 at 15:13:04, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (valicac(a)gmail.com)
wrote:
Hi devs,
This mail is about voting to drop support for IE8 in 6.x cycle.
The issue is more complicated, since according to our 'Browser Support
Strategy' [1] we are supporting IE8, IE9 and the latest versions of FF,
Chrome (+ Safari5).
IE8 was released in March 2009 (4 years ago)
IE9 - March 2011 (2 years ago)
IE10 - Sept 2012 (17 months ago)
IE11 - Oct 2013 (4 month ago)
With the release of IE11 some companies also dropped their support for IE9,
so we should also adjust our support strategy by supporting newer browsers
(IE10, IE11) and dropping the support for old ones (IE8, IE9).
According to Statcounter for the last 6 month period
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-201309-201402-barthe
most popular IE browsers are IE10 (8.48%) and IE8 (7.98%).
While the market share is not neglectable there is something you need to
consider:
In 6.x we want to add a new skin: Flamingo. Ideally this skin should be
responsive. In order to assure responsiveness we need media query support.
IE8 doesn't has support for media query natively, we would need Respond.js
[2] to enable it.
While this solution exist, 6.x will be ready at the end of 2014 when I
suspect the market share for IE8 will drop.
Additional to not having media query support, there are other CSS3
properties and HTML5 elements that are not fully supported by IE8
(border-radius, box-shadow, transition, etc.).
This is my +1 to drop support for IE8 in 6.x
Thanks,
Caty
[1]
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy
[2]
https://github.com/scottjehl/Respond
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