1 Oct
2014
1 Oct
'14
9:12 a.m.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
We
the
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Applicati…
IMO it's exactly the same use case, the only difference is that the Actions
Not completely replaced because not all operations/actions can be performed
in bulk fashion. Take the 'edit' action and notice that it is a single
element action compared to 'delete'.
A different situation exists for the 'rename' action since it is more of a
single element action, but can be presented as a bulk action as well if you
provide some kind of renaming template like '<prefix>_<number>'.
In other words, both the bulk operations toolbar and the actions column
have their right place in the livetable IMO and having a checkbox column
like Marius did for the FM livetable looks like the right way to go.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Guillaume
Lerouge <
me(a)guillaumelerouge.com>
wrote:
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Hi,
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <
guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Marius,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <
> > guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi again,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Guillaume
"Louis-Marie"
> Delhumeau <
> > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Eddy,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2014-09-25 11:59 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru < :
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi devs,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I`m not sure if we already have a discussion started on this
> topic,
> > > but
> > > >> in
> > > >> > my opinion, it's long overdue. I see people start being
confused
> and
> > > >> > questions like this [1] start to be asked.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The new location of the Add menu in Flamingo is problematic
IMO
> for
> > a
> > > >> > various number of reasons:
> > > >> > - It falsely gives the impression that it adds page-related
> entries
> > > (i.e.
> > > >> > related to the current page), due to its current location
(i.e.
> in
> > > the
> > > > >> page
> > > > >> > content)
> > > > >> > - It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new Entry"
button
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > More generally speaking, this is true for a lot of livetables.
>
would
> > > > need a generic "Create" button to be available when we
instantiate
> a
> > > > > livetable. This could be useful for the wiki index page, for
> user
> > > > > directory, for all the AWM homepages...
> > > >
> > > > I guess you like the files live table from the File Manager then
:)
> >
> >
>
> > > > . Would be interesting to
have such a toolbar (with support for
> custom
> > > > buttons) before the live table don't you think?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > IMO the toolbar's functionality is already covered by the
'Actions'
> column
> > in the livetable. The only thing missing is the 'Create'
> >
>
> I'm not sure this is the same use case. I can see at least 3 reasons
why:
column was used as an intermediate solution
because we didn't had bulk
actions in livetable (the ability to make multiple entity selection
(checkbox) - that's why we duplicate the entries on each row).
Great, this means that we agree on the fact that the "Actions" column
should be replaced by a "Select" column with checkboxes in it, and also
that Marius' horizontal livetable toolbar should be expanded to be used in
a generic fashion by all livetables :-)
Guillaume
solution.
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Thanks,
Caty
>
> 1/ The "create" button would generate a new entry, whereas the
"actions"
> column is for actions that are related to
individual entries that
already
> exist
> 2/ The "actions" column can be removed by the livetable creator
> 3/ The toolbar would also be useful to handle bulk actions on pages
such
as
> "delete selected entries" (as in the file manager)
>
> Best,
>
> Guillaume
>
> Thanks,
> > Caty
> >
> >
> >
> > > Yes and yes :-)
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Basically the button would let the user create a new item of
the
same
> > > type
> > > > than the items displayed in the livetable. Right now we do this
in
> an
> > > > > ad-hoc fashion, so it would be great to have a generic It's
> > > also
> > > > related to the automatic page name generation module (that we
don't
> have
> > in
> > > the core yet, though there's an extensions doing it
> > > <
> >
>
> >
> >
> > > > ).
> > > >
> > > > Guillaume
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> > - from my POV, looking at the page from a far, the new
location
> > looks
> > > >> > completely randomly selected:
> > > >> > -- It's not on the left/top (as left-to-right language
specific
> > > brains
> > > > >> are
> > > > >> > trained to follow)
> > > > >> > -- it's not exactly at the top either
> > > > >> > -- it's not at the right
> > > > >> > -- it's not next to the type of elements it creates
(i.e. to
:)),
> > >> > WIKI/SPACE/PAGE)
> > >> > -- it basically is almost in the middle of the screen
> > >> > - etc. (i.e. others that don`t come right now to my mind)
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Personally, I like the fact that it is located near the Edit
button,
> > even
> > >> if it does not concern the current page. Because it groups the
most
> > basic
> > >> and useful actions that you need when you want to contribute:
EDIT,
> > ADD.
> > > >>
> > > >> To me, it makes sense.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I`d like to open a discussion on this, since it's quite
an
> important
> > > >> aspect
> > > >> > of the UI and, due to it's shiny green color (which I
like it`s
> > hard
> > >> > to miss.
> > >> >
> > >> > Is it just me who's resistant to change, or do others see a
problem
> > here
> > >> > with this as well?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Eduard
> > >> >
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