Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposals] Menu improvements when Workspaces activated

On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'd say singular form is better than plural but then I'm not a native English speaker ;) Regarding Index vs Directory, I don't know. Thanks -Vincent that http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/PortalMenuinstead http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu-non-admi… https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/8c1c1bac2cde30f9024525e50249… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Administer Main Wiki" was proposed as: >>>>>>> - "Administration" >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> - "Administer Home" / "Administrate Home" >>>>>>> depending if you were located in Home or in the (sub)wiki. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We though this menu was confusing and not consistent with the >>>>> current >>>>>>>> menus: >>>>>>>>> - Why do we have a link to the *main wiki* administration when >>> we >>>>> are >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> (sub)wiki? Does it make sense? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As an administrator I think it has sense to be able to >> administrate >>>> both >>>>>>> the current (sub)wiki you are visiting and also the home >> (mainwiki). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Why do we have the main wiki (called Home) in the left of >> the >>>>> current >>>>>>>>> wiki, space and page? The fact that there is actually a "main" >>> and >>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>>> "sub" wikis is only due to the implementation. We could >> imagine, >>>> in >>>>> the >>>>>>>>> future, a new implementation where there is no distinction >>> between >>>>>>> "main" >>>>>>>>> and "sub", but where we have an independent "system" that >> allows >>>> the >>>>>>>> users >>>>>>>>> to create and manage their wikis. Then, it seems better to >> call >>>> the >>>>>>> menu >>>>>>>>> "System" or "XWiki". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "main" and "sub" is transformed in "home" and "wiki". The menu >>>>> displays >>>>>>> the hierarchy: Home > Wiki > Space > Page and is also consistent >>> with >>>>> the >>>>>>> way our cascading works for our preferences (rights, etc.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - When we don't have the admin right on the main wiki, we only >>> have >>>> a >>>>>>>>> single item in this menu, meanwhile wiki, space and page has >>> more >>>>>>>> content. >>>>>>>>> It does not look good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the proposal there is http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… >>>>>>> Although this is not currently implemented, the idea is that we >>> could >>>>> also >>>>>>> list for example the "Users Index" a.k.a the "User Directory" >>>>> (especially >>>>>>> since workspaces have only global users and the directory is >> located >>>> in >>>>> the >>>>>>> main wiki). In the proposal I've used " *** Index" in order to >> have >>> a >>>>>>> consistency between the index/directory applications naming. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So the idea is that even if now there is only one entry in the >>>> submenu, >>>>> we >>>>>>> could have more entries (if they are related to the Home >>> (mainwiki)). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - If you are in the main wiki, you have "Administer main wiki" >>>>> twice: >>>>>>>> once >>>>>>>>> in the Home menu, once in the Wiki menu. >>>>>>>>> - The left menu has too many items. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are on the main wiki, the menu changes from >>>>>>> * Menu in the (sub)wiki http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> * Menu in the Home (mainwiki) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The left menu contains items related to 'spatial organization of >>>>> content' >>>>>>> inside XWiki (wikis, spaces, pages) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> == Proposal B == >>>>>>>>> Vincent thought it was not good enough to be integrated in >>> 5.2M2, >>>>> so we >>>>>>>>> started to iterate until having this proposal: >>>>>>>>> > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-xwiki-menu.png(pro… >>>>>>>>> B). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why putting this menu to the right side? It's because, on the >>> left >>>>>>> side, >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> have Wiki/Space/Page, where you have actions that you can >>> actually >>>>>>>> achieve >>>>>>>>> on these Wiki, Space and Page. Actions like "Administer", >>> "Delete" >>>>> or >>>>>>>>> "Rename". The XWiki menu does not provide actions like that, >> it >>>> just >>>>>>>>> provides some shortcuts to navigate thought the wikis. It's >>> more a >>>>>>>> "System" >>>>>>>>> menu, like the Profile menu, or the Register action. That's >> why >>> we >>>>> put >>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> there. Moreover, it make the left menu smaller, which is less >>>>>>> confusing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't like this proposal because is breaking the content >>>> organization >>>>>>> hierarchy: home > wiki > space > page. >>>>>>> You can consider our current menu to be composed of "Content || >>> User". >>>>> The >>>>>>> "Content" part allows you to create new content and to see your >>>>> location in >>>>>>> the content hierarchy. The right menu is dedicated to User related >>>>> actions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also I don't like that it uses the name XWiki. Users want to >>> customize >>>>>>> their instance and not even show it's running on XWiki, making it >>>> their >>>>>>> own. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> == Proposal C == >>>>>>>>> We had also this idea: >>>>>>>>> > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/wiki-menu.png(proposal… >>>>>>>>> But we didn't like it, because the "Wiki Directory" and the >>> "Main >>>>> Wiki" >>>>>>>>> link are not related to the current wiki, meanwhile actions >> like >>>>>>>>> "Administer", "Index" or "Delete" are. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Crowded and serves as a double function. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> After having created the proposal B, I asked Vincent: "What >>>> should I >>>>>>> do? >>>>>>>> Do >>>>>>>>> I commit it, without asking to the community?". He said yes, >>>>> because he >>>>>>>>> wanted to have something to show to the community that can >> still >>>> be >>>>>>>> changed >>>>>>>>> for the RC1, and he applied the pull request. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, let me list again the 3 proposals we have: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A - "Home" menu (Caty's proposal): >>>>>>>>> Current implementation: >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu.png >>>>>>>>> Mockup with the new skin: >>>>>>>>> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/PortalMenu/Men… _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs