13 Nov
2013
13 Nov
'13
5:15 p.m.
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I've finished moving the content from
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/WebHome and
http://incubator.myxwiki.org (Improvements, Standards, Tech, Mockups
spaces) to the new wiki
http://design.xwiki.org/
Woohoo :) Nice progress from before, well done!
Some quick comments:
* Is it possible to remove the centered thing and do the same as on other
subwikis of xwiki.org? (consistency!)
* It's a real pity that you seem to have lost the history and thus creation
date/author and last modified date/author since ideally the LT should be
filtered by latest proposal first (as for the Extensions of e.x.o).
* I think you've been a bit overzeleaous in changing states of proposals...
going to try to fix some. At least that's a good way to reset everything :)
* "Active" vs "Dormant" is too hard IMO. What's the criteria? For
example
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/APM Nobody is working
actively but it's something I believe we need and it's still valid. What
about http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/AlternateURLScheme I'm
working on it, once every 4 months. I think these 2 states are too hard to
maintain because nobody is going to move them from Active to Dormant. I'd
suggest we replace both "Active" and "Dormant" by "Open"
because I don't
think we need to separate them. "Open" should list all designs about things
that we wish to do. Those that we don't want to do should be in "Dropped".
WDYT?
* Is
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/CAPTCHAIntegration#Historyrea…
"Dropped"? Shouldn't it be "Completed"?
* I don't understand how you categorize designs and how you link them
together, for ex:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/SearchLucene
* I don't really understand why you consider "Design" to be about UI
only... For ex
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/AlternateURLScheme is purely
design and you categorized it as "Feature". I also don't understand what
"Feature'" means. And why a proposal of "Design" cannot include
requirements? Or is it just the "latest" stage it's in but that doesn't
mean much in agile dev since the design and code work together and are
cycling in small iterations... :)
Thanks!
-Vincent
Since I've been using scripts, the Participants and Status might not be
accurate since I marked most of them as Completed. Feel free to mark your
proposal accordingly and maybe even change the parent hierarchy if you find
your proposal in the wrong place.
Thanks,
Caty
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDesignWiki
will
new
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDesignWiki
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On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> *Short version* for voting:
> *A*. Creation of a new wiki on xwiki.org farm that will hold
development
process
details about a specific feature. This wiki will deprecate
dev.xwiki.org:Design and incubator.myxwiki.org
+1
*B*. Vote on naming alternatives for this new wiki:
design.xwiki.org
incubator.xwiki.org
+1 for design.xwiki.org
-0 for incubator.xwiki.org, "incubator" means implementations waiting
to be approved in some mainstream repository for me not design and
architecture. It would make more sense used as the name of a github
repository/organization associated to this wiki for example.
*C*. UI on how a Proposal will be displayed in this new wiki (example
AppWithinMinutes):
Looks very nice. Same as Denis, it's very important that it's as easy
as possible to use and not a constraint in order to actually be used.
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> *Long version: *
>
> Right now development process activities are located in multiple
places:
> - Analysis + Architecture:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
> - Analysis + User Interface:
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/
> - Other: http://xwiki.markmail.org/, http://jira.xwiki.org, chats, git
> comments, etc.
>
> This process can be hard to optimize and information is hard to track
if
you are
looking for specific information.
And the worst part of it is that is hard to automatize and lots of the
items need manual gathering or search.
*Part A. *
This mail is about combining
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/and
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/ work in a single place.
> This has already been discussed several times before (
> http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/kc32dufsf7nyyt6s and
> http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/izj6aiyodwqia4vl) and the vote was
> favorable in this direction.
> The proposal was to create a new wiki called design.xwiki.org that contain
the combined information and that will target developers.
The new wiki will be used to gather only proposal's development process
information: requirements, architecture, solutions alternatives, user
interface variants, planning, etc. for a specific
feature/idea/improvement.
After the proposal is implemented it will be
properly documented in the
right location for users (ex platform.xwiki.org).
It is acceptable to have CSS + JS code on this wiki in order to
demonstrate
the functionality of the proposals, but we should
not add
experimental/dangerous code (groovy scripts, jars, etc.). For this case
it
is advisable to use a test machine, share your
own instance or use the
contrib.xwiki.org repository for hosting.
The version upgrades will be handle by a community admin and the wiki
gardening by me.
The data from incubator.myxwiki.org and dev.xwiki.org:Design will be
moved
> gradually after the new wiki is created.
>
> *Part B. *
> You should state your opinion regarding which name is better for the wiki:
- design.xwiki.org
- incubator.xwiki.org
- we accept other proposals.
*Part C.*
I've made a proposal on how a proposal page would look like:
The proposal page will gather all the information related to it, making
it
easier to track it's progress.
The entries will be separated depending on 4 categories: Analysis,
Architecture, User Interface and Implementation, each category having
it's
own status, participants, jiras and timeframe.
Categories are not mandatory for all proposals, smaller proposals will
have
just the related pages for certain areas.
Each proposal will store it's data in a dedicated space.
The implementation of the proposal will be handled by me.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Caty
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