Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Start supporting IE10 and IE11

+1 for IE9/10/11 +0 for IE8 (there is a lot of users but even Microsoft does not support it!) 2014-09-04 16:11 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne : > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Mortagne > wrote: > > What about supporting what Microsoft support ? That means not IE9/10/11 > only. > > Remove the "not" of course. > > > > > See > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/08/07/stay-up-to-date-with-internet… > . > > > > IMO we should not do more that the own browser editor does. > > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:40 PM, vincent(a)massol.net > wrote: > >> Reviving this thread since we need to decide and lots of committers > haven’t voted yet! > >> > >> I’ve updated > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy with > recent market share. > >> > >> Note that there are various other sources and they don’t seem to show > similar data: > >> - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers > >> - http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_de_march%C3%A9_des_navigateurs_web > >> - http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php > >> > >> However I think they all show that if we wish to support 80% of users > we have to support about the 10 top browsers used and AFAICS this includes: > >> - IE8/9/10/11 > >> - FF latest > >> - Chrome latest > >> - Safari latest > >> > >> It seems market shared for IE8/9 are still high. However IE10 is less > high (probably because those who upgraded to it quickly upgraded to IE11)? > >> > >> So far we have the following votes: > >> - Andrea: +1 to support IE10/11 > >> - Vincent: +1 to support IE10/11 > >> - Marius: +1 to support IE11, +0 to support IE8/9/10 > >> > >> Thanks > >> -Vincent > >> > >> > >> On 10 Jun 2014 at 09:08:43, vincent(a)massol.net (vincent(a)massol.net > (mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Andrea/all, > >>> > >>> On 10 Jun 2014 at 08:46:45, Andreea Popescu (andreea.popescu(a)xwiki.com > (mailto:andreea.popescu@xwiki.com)) wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hello all, > >>> > > >>> > Following the "Start supporting IE10 and IE11" thread I’d like to > propose > >>> > to vote if we will support IE10 and IE11. > >>> > >>> FTR the thread in question is at > http://markmail.org/message/zjlbcfkl5cqnrwfk > >>> > >>> > The most important reasons for supporting these versions are: > >>> > > >>> > - Internet Explorer 8 and Internet Explorer 9 are still widely used > by > >>> > users, but many of them are currently choosing to update to IE10 and > IE11. > >>> > - according to netmarketshare.com (Browsers -> Desktop Share by > Version) > >>> > from a total of 100%, IE10 is used by 6.85% users and IE11 by 16.61% > users. > >>> > It’s true that IE10 is not as popular as the older versions (IE8 - > 20.85% > >>> > and IE9 - 8.89%), but its usage percentage is still significant. > >>> > > >>> > Here’s my +1. > >>> > >>> On the above-mentioned thread Marius had proposed to support only the > latest version of each browser, which is basically what we’re doing except > for IE. The rationale is that it takes time to support all browsers and the > community can only do so much. Companies offering paid services on top of > XWiki could support the other browser versions for their customers. > >>> > >>> While I understand that, my POV is a bit different: I’d like that we > support the top browsers/versions used by the majority of people, because I > feel XWiki will be successful if the majority of people can use it without > problems. > >>> > >>> Looking at the graph at > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy if > we were to support at least the top 6 browser/versions we would cover 70% > of the user base. For IE this means supporting IE8-11. Note that strangely > IE8 is the top browser in market shares, way above most of the others… Not > supporting it ATM would mean “loosing" 20%+ of users. If we have problems > supporting, say the top 10 browsers, then we can drop to top 6, if that’s > an issue, then to top 5, etc. ATM we’re supporting 5 browsers and with > IE10-11, this would mean raising to 7 browsers. I propose that we try it > with the additional 2 browsers (IE10-11) and see if it’s a burden for us or > it’s manageable. > >>> > >>> So there are 2 questions in here: > >>> - Starting the support for IE10-11: I’m +1 for that > >>> - Deciding if we want to support only one version for each browser or > instead support the highest browsers in marketshare. I’m +1 for the > marketshare approach. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> -Vincent > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devs mailing list > >> devs(a)xwiki.org > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Mortagne > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs