16 Jun
2014
16 Jun
'14
1:07 p.m.
2014-06-16 12:51 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>om>:
IMO the biggest problem are the applications that are
using the colorthemes
variables.
So from what I understood you propose to deprecate the colorthemes
variables in favor of Bootstrap variables. My question is how do we do it?
So instead of using '$theme.textColor' I would need to use '@text-color'
?
The problem is that one is Velocity, while the other is LESS.
We could have velocity variables too, like
$bootstrapTheme.get('text-color').
Do we plan to
support and compile all css, across all applications. From what I know now
we only compile the style.css -> style.less.
Because of performances reasons, I think it is better to not offer this
feature everywhere.
Not sure how much work you have for the RC1, but for me is kind of risky.
Also because we need to reach an agreement.
Yes it seems the most careful choice.
So IMO we could make just the wizards/previewers skin dependent and keep
the ColorThemesClass generic.
The approach could be to have something like:
* xwiki-platform-colorthemes that contains the API colorthemes we propose
to use across our applications. ColorThemes name might be a bit
restrictive, since they are actually API variables used to customize the UI
across elements ( we could extend it to support IconThemes, PanelsThemes,
etc. but that's another discussion). This way we share the ColorThemeClass.
* xwiki-platform-colibri-colorthemes that could contain only the wizard.
This is indeed skin dependent because of the layout. It will be also
dependent of platform-colorthemes since it's using it's variables.
* xwiki-platform-flamingo-themes that will contain the prototype preview
you are working on. Here we will provide a tab for the standard XWiki
colortheme variables and other tabs that customize the Bootstrap values.
Maybe here we could write a mapping like '$theme.textColor = @text-color'
although this will be technical and these wizards should be used by
non-technical users (actually this is kind of problematic for Boostrap
variables, since they are intimidating because they are so many). It's a
bit problematic, since I don't know if in the Flamingo Wizard we should
provide all the Bootstrap varibles. The skin is not using all the structure
Bootstrap is providing. For example, in our panels we don't have a
dedicated footer, etc.
I would like to propose only **some** of the bootstrap variables. I have
already started to pick some of them, and just playing with it with
automatic preview. It's quite fun actually.
If we have this API colorthemes variables we will be on the safe side if
Bootstrap is changing again the syntax (like in the case of 2.x, 3.x, 4.x,
etc.). If they change it again we just adapt it in the
xwiki-platform-flamingo-themes wizard, but we will not need to change in
all our applications.
Ok but that means we do not choose Bootstrap as our new UI standard, but we
create our own.
Thanks,
Caty
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
whole
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ColorThemeforFlamingo/C…
powerful.
> >> > Mixing old color theme variables and bootstrap variables will not
> >> resulting
> >> > to a consistent set of variables, so that is why I am proposing to
> >> separate
> >> > the 2 cases.
> >>
> >> So the reason is not because the current color theme properties are
> >> skin dependent but because we want to use the bootstrap
'properties'
> >> (some of which are in the current color theme but with a different
> >> name?).
> >>
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > The alternative is to not expose BS variables but only our already
> defined
> > variables and have an internal mapping between our variables and the
> > bootstrap ones. It would be less flexible, but we would still have the
https://github.com/gdelhumeau/xwiki-platform/commit/49aca5733f4a820f3d1327c…
of
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ColorThemeforFlamingo/f…
color
to
https://github.com/gdelhumeau/xwiki-platform/commit/49aca5733f4a820f3d1327c…
do
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Thanks,
Guillaume
BTW, I first planned to implement this for RC1.
Do you see, guys, any inconvenient for writing such an application +
modify
the administration-ui in a RC?
If there is, then I need a milestone 3, or pushing it for 6.2.
Thanks,
Guillaume
2014-06-12 10:21 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
It
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Guillaume
"Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
<gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> 2014-06-12 10:06 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
> mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
>> <gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Marius,
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-06-11 21:26 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
>> > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
>> >
>> >> There are currently many places (both in platform and in
extensions)
>> >> where we use color theme
properties such as
>> >> $theme.pageContentBackgroundColor .
>> >
>> >
>> > For them, I have written a retro-compatibility component that
computes
> >> the
> >> > color themes variables from the style.css generated by Flamingo.
> > actually does a mapping between bootstrap
variables and old color
theme
>> > variables. It is not perfect, but at least it does not break the >> UI.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Does FlamingoThemeCode.ThemeClass
>> >> have completely different properties? I hope not. I'm looking at
the
>> >> ColorThemeClass and most of its
properties seem pretty generic,
i.e.
>
>> skin independent. Which ones are skin dependent?
> >>
> >
>
> > First, the preview section is completely skin dependent (see:
> >
>
> >> > ).
> >>
> >> My question was not about the UI. I was talking strictly about the
> >> 'data'. A color theme is defined by a map of (property, value)
pairs.
> >> The current color theme definition
has some properties that are (I
> >> think) widely used. You propose a new color theme definition that
has
> >> different properties. The reason
is, you say, because the current
> >> color theme properties are skin dependent. I don't find this true,
at
> >> least not entirely. Most of the
current color theme properties seem
> >> skin independent to me, that's why I asked you to list the
properties
> that you view as skin dependent.
>
> >
>
> > Then, the new theme editor will propose to customize a set of
variables
>> > specific to bootstrap, just like:
>> > http://fancyboot.designspebam.com/
>> >
>> > We are exposing the BS variables because it is flexible and > > textarea field to write LESS code if it
is not enough. This
alternative
is
we
only about changing the UI, and not the data.
I don't have a strong opinion. Since we're gong to standardise our UI
around BS then I guess it's fine to use directly the BS variables for
the new color themes.
Thanks,
Marius
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marius
>>
>> >
>> > BTW, old color themes are still compatibles with Flamingo, because > have
> > a binding between the old color theme variables and the bootstrap
> > variables, but it is far from perfect.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Also,
> >>
>
>>
>> shows that FlamingoThemeCode.ThemeClass has only two properties?
>> >> body-bg and text-color, both present with a different name in
>> >> ColorThemeClass.
>> >>
>> >
>> > When I have posted the link above, I only wanted to show you the
>> > modifications done on SkinAction.java. Of course, ThemeClass will
not
> >> have
> >> > only two properties! This commit is a first step to have a proof
> >> concept.
> >> >
> >> > If you want to have the list of bootstrap variables, you could see
> there:
> >> > http://getbootstrap.com/customize/#less-variables
> >> >
> >> > Of course we won't expose all these variables: it would be
confusing
> for
> >> > the end user. We have to chose some of them. If the user wants to
> >> customize
> >> > variables that are not exposed, she can do that with the textarea
> field
> >> > where she can write LESS code.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Marius
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie"
Delhumeau
>>
>> <gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi devs.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am implementing the Color Theme Editor for Flamingo! And this
is
a
> >> > preview:
> >> >
> >>
>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since the current color theme application is strongly linked
to
> >> Colibri,
> >> >> > and the new application will be strongly linked to Flamingo,
I
> propose
> >> >> the
> >> >> > following:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1/ move xwiki-platform-colorthemes in xwiki-platform-colibri
and
state
>> >> that
>> >> > this application is only compatible with colibri-based skin.
>> >> > 2/ create the new application in xwiki-platform-flamingo
>> >> > 3/ the new color theme application will actually propose more
than
> >> colors
> >> >> > (fonts, less code, etc...), so I propose to call it
> >> >> > xwiki-platform-flamingo-themes.
> >> >> > 4/ in the administration, we have a page that propose which
>>
theme
>> >> we
>> >> > want to use. Since the new application will not be compatible
with
> the
> >> >> old
> >> >> > one, I propose to add an extension point (such as what we
have > >> >> configure
> >> >> > search suggest sources) in order to propose the themes
> corresponding
> >> to
> >> >> the
> >> >> > selected skin (ie: xobjects of ColorThemes.ColorThemeClass
for
> colibri
> >> >> and
> >> >> > skins based on colibri, and xobjects of
> FlamingoThemeCode.ThemeClass
> >> for
> >> >> > flamingo).
> >> >> > 5/ modify SkinAction that currenlty executes velocity code on
a
> skin
> >> file
> >> >> > if the mime type is CSS or JS, to also execute velocity on
files
> >> suffixed
> >> >> > by .less.vm, because I need it for my application. To see
what
it
> looks
> >> > like, please look at
> >> >
> >>
>
>>
>> > . The alternative is to create a new action which is too much
IMO.
> >> >> > 6/ when colibri will be deprecated on removed from XE, we
will the
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> >> same
> >> > for the old color theme application.
> >> >
> >> > WDYT?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Guillaume
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