Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Stop supporting XWiki Manager

I guess you mean "move the github repo to xwiki-contrib" because merging XEM and retired repository would be a pain (a not even sure it would work fully). I prefer to just move the repo to contrib and indicate it's retired like we did for other modules. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Eduard Moraru &lt;enygma2002(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > +1 > > Thanks, > Eduard > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: > >> Almost everybody has voted so I think this proposal is approved. >> >> >> >> 2013/9/13 Sergiu Dumitriu &lt;sergiu(a)xwiki.com&gt; >> >> > On 09/13/2013 08:51 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: >> > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu &lt;sergiu(a)xwiki.com&gt; >> > wrote: >> > >> On 09/11/2013 05:58 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau wrote: >> > >>> Since Enterprise embeds Workspaces by default since 5.2-m2, I think >> it >> > does >> > >>> not make any sense to release XWiki Manager (XEM) anymore. >> > >>> >> > >>> The build is currently broken (because of the XAR organization >> > changes). >> > >>> >> > >>> So I propose to remove XWiki Manager: >> > >>> - stop releasing it >> > >>>> > >>> - update manager.xwiki.org to explain the changes in XWiki 5.2. >> > >>> - move the manager jira to the retired category >> > >>> - remove the build in ci.xwiki.org >> > >>> >> > >>> Here is my non-binding +1. >> > >>> >> > >>> LM >> > >> >> > >> -1. This is very premature, the new workspaces haven't been available >> > >> for a long enough time to be sure it is a good replacement for XEM. >> > >> >> > >> Do workspaces fulfill all the needs of existing XEM users? >> > > >> > > XEM became a workspaces manager in 3.3 (see >> > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XEM-202) so there is nothing new here. >> > > The only difference between the new XE and XEM is that wiki manager UI >> > > is not included while it was hidden in XEM so it's not a big change >> > > for users since it's super easy to install with Extension Manager. >> > > >> > > XEM is and always been pretty much only a set of pom.xml files with >> > > dependencies and not much more than a home page. Guillaume moved >> > > Workspaces from XEM to XE making XEM pretty much useless now. >> > > >> > >> >> > >> Does the new implementation offer support for the Farm usage? >> > > >> > > You can install Wiki Manager UI using Extension Manager. >> > > >> > >> >> > >> Is there a clear migration path? Manual or automatic? >> > >> >> > >> Is the new wiki management UI going to be at least as easy to use as >> the >> > >> old one? What's the learning curve for administrators? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> If the build is broken, it's easier to fix it than to upset a large >> > >> userbase. Why do we insist so much on maintaining backwards >> > >> compatibility for Java APIs that we're almost certain nobody uses, yet >> > >> we're OK with dropping an entire product without a proven alternative, >> > >> hoping that in one or two more releases that alternative will actually >> > >> be fully implemented? >> > > >> > > The point here is that the alternative is XE. We don't remove XEM >> > > because the build is broken... It simply does not worth the effort to >> > > keep it anymore since XE expose the same features. >> > >> > Given that as a downstream user I don't really use multiwikis in any >> > way, this doesn't affect me at all. So +1, less code is always better. >> > One product less means less confusion for users. >> > >> > My main complaint was about the backwards compatibility rule that's not >> > being followed. >> > -- >> > Sergiu Dumitriu >> > http://purl.org/net/sergiu >> > _______________________________________________ >> > devs mailing list >> > devs(a)xwiki.org >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> devs(a)xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs -- Thomas Mortagne