Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposals] Menu improvements when Workspaces activated

Indeed, the proposal A was based on http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/PortalMenuinstead of http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/HomeMenu . Then I suggest to call your proposal: E. Let me recap: - Proposal A : Tiny "Home menu". - Proposal B : XWiki right side menu - Proposal C : Wiki crowded menu - Proposal D : Add a menu on the top-left logo. - Proposal E : The complete "Home menu" proposed by Caty. -- About E: Some issues IMHO: - The amount of menus is not the same when you are in the home wiki and when you are in the subwiki. - Do we really need to have a direct access to the documents, the users and the applications of the home wiki when you are in the subwiki? Can't it be confusing?

Thanks, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau 2013/9/12 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> the as was http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu.png http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu-non-admi… https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/8c1c1bac2cde30f9024525e50249… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… > > "Administer Main Wiki" was proposed as: > - "Administration" > or > - "Administer Home" / "Administrate Home" > depending if you were located in Home or in the (sub)wiki. > > > We though this menu was confusing and not consistent with the current > > menus: > > > - Why do we have a link to the *main wiki* administration when we are > in > > a > > > (sub)wiki? Does it make sense? > > As an administrator I think it has sense to be able to administrate both > the current (sub)wiki you are visiting and also the home (mainwiki). > > > - Why do we have the main wiki (called Home) in the left of the current the > > > future, a new implementation where there is no distinction between > "main" > > > and "sub", but where we have an independent "system" that allows the > > users > > > to create and manage their wikis. Then, it seems better to call the > menu > > > "System" or "XWiki". > > The "main" and "sub" is transformed in "home" and "wiki". The menu displays > the hierarchy: Home > Wiki > Space > Page and is also consistent with the > way our cascading works for our preferences (rights, etc.) > > > - When we don't have the admin right on the main wiki, we only have a > > > single item in this menu, meanwhile wiki, space and page has more > > content. > > > It does not look good. > > In the proposal there is http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… also the we > could have more entries (if they are related to the Home (mainwiki)). > > > - If you are in the main wiki, you have "Administer main wiki" twice: > > once > > > in the Home menu, once in the Wiki menu. > > > - The left menu has too many items. > > If you are on the main wiki, the menu changes from > * Menu in the (sub)wiki http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… > in > * Menu in the Home (mainwiki) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… > > The left menu contains items related to 'spatial organization of content' > inside XWiki (wikis, spaces, pages) > > > > > > == Proposal B == > > > Vincent thought it was not good enough to be integrated in 5.2M2, so we > > > started to iterate until having this proposal: > > > > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-xwiki-menu.png(pro… put > it > > > there. Moreover, it make the left menu smaller, which is less > confusing. > > I don't like this proposal because is breaking the content organization > hierarchy: home > wiki > space > page. > You can consider our current menu to be composed of "Content || User". The in actions. > > Also I don't like that it uses the name XWiki. Users want to customize > their instance and not even show it's running on XWiki, making it their > own. > > > > > > == Proposal C == > > > We had also this idea: > > > > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/wiki-menu.png(proposal… Wiki" > > > link are not related to the current wiki, meanwhile actions like > > > "Administer", "Index" or "Delete" are. > > Crowded and serves as a double function. > > > > > > --- > > > After having created the proposal B, I asked Vincent: "What should I > do? > > Do > > > I commit it, without asking to the community?". He said yes, because he http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu.png > > > Mockup with the new skin: > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/PortalMenu/Men… have > a > > > consensus for the RC1! > > > > > > 0 for proposal A (the left menu is too heavy). > > > +0 for proposal B (not perfect IMHO). > > > -1 for proposal C. > > > > > So, my vote goes to Ver. A, but the way it was proposed: > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/HomeMenu > > (Wiki / (sub)wiki) > * Home > ** Administration > ** --- > ** Wikis Index/Directory > ** Documents Index > > (Home/mainwiki) > * Home > ** Watch Home > ** Administer Home > ** --- > ** Wikis Index > ** Documents Index > > Thanks, > Caty > > > Louis-Marie > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs