Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposals] Menu improvements when Workspaces activated

On Sep 19, 2013, at 10:21 AM, "Guillaume \"Louis-Marie\" Delhumeau" < gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: The only downside is that it's not very logical with the rest of the menus which use the format: "<prefix>:<name>". For example: "Space: <spacename>" or "Page: <pagename>".

If we were to remove "Space:" and "Page:" prefixes then I'd be +1. Right now I'm more +0. Thanks -Vincent a having only http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/PortalMenuinstead . http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu.png http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu-non-admi… https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/8c1c1bac2cde30f9024525e50249… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… >>>>>> >>>>>> "Administer Main Wiki" was proposed as: >>>>>> - "Administration" >>>>>> or >>>>>> - "Administer Home" / "Administrate Home" >>>>>> depending if you were located in Home or in the (sub)wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> We though this menu was confusing and not consistent with the >>>> current >>>>>>> menus: >>>>>>>> - Why do we have a link to the *main wiki* administration when >> we >>>> are >>>>>> in >>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> (sub)wiki? Does it make sense? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As an administrator I think it has sense to be able to administrate >>> both >>>>>> the current (sub)wiki you are visiting and also the home (mainwiki). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Why do we have the main wiki (called Home) in the left of the >>>> current >>>>>>>> wiki, space and page? The fact that there is actually a "main" >> and >>>>>>> several >>>>>>>> "sub" wikis is only due to the implementation. We could imagine, >>> in >>>> the >>>>>>>> future, a new implementation where there is no distinction >> between >>>>>> "main" >>>>>>>> and "sub", but where we have an independent "system" that allows >>> the >>>>>>> users >>>>>>>> to create and manage their wikis. Then, it seems better to call >>> the >>>>>> menu >>>>>>>> "System" or "XWiki". >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The "main" and "sub" is transformed in "home" and "wiki". The menu >>>> displays >>>>>> the hierarchy: Home > Wiki > Space > Page and is also consistent >> with >>>> the >>>>>> way our cascading works for our preferences (rights, etc.) >>>>>> >>>>>>> - When we don't have the admin right on the main wiki, we only >> have >>> a >>>>>>>> single item in this menu, meanwhile wiki, space and page has >> more >>>>>>> content. >>>>>>>> It does not look good. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In the proposal there is http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… >>>>>> Although this is not currently implemented, the idea is that we >> could >>>> also >>>>>> list for example the "Users Index" a.k.a the "User Directory" >>>> (especially >>>>>> since workspaces have only global users and the directory is located >>> in >>>> the >>>>>> main wiki). In the proposal I've used " *** Index" in order to have >> a >>>>>> consistency between the index/directory applications naming. >>>>>> >>>>>> So the idea is that even if now there is only one entry in the >>> submenu, >>>> we >>>>>> could have more entries (if they are related to the Home >> (mainwiki)). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> - If you are in the main wiki, you have "Administer main wiki" >>>> twice: >>>>>>> once >>>>>>>> in the Home menu, once in the Wiki menu. >>>>>>>> - The left menu has too many items. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are on the main wiki, the menu changes from >>>>>> * Menu in the (sub)wiki http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… >>>>>> in >>>>>> * Menu in the Home (mainwiki) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeM… >>>>>> >>>>>> The left menu contains items related to 'spatial organization of >>>> content' >>>>>> inside XWiki (wikis, spaces, pages) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> == Proposal B == >>>>>>>> Vincent thought it was not good enough to be integrated in >> 5.2M2, >>>> so we >>>>>>>> started to iterate until having this proposal: >>>>>>>> > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-xwiki-menu.png(pro… >>>>>>>> B). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why putting this menu to the right side? It's because, on the >> left >>>>>> side, >>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> have Wiki/Space/Page, where you have actions that you can >> actually >>>>>>> achieve >>>>>>>> on these Wiki, Space and Page. Actions like "Administer", >> "Delete" >>>> or >>>>>>>> "Rename". The XWiki menu does not provide actions like that, it >>> just >>>>>>>> provides some shortcuts to navigate thought the wikis. It's >> more a >>>>>>> "System" >>>>>>>> menu, like the Profile menu, or the Register action. That's why >> we >>>> put >>>>>> it >>>>>>>> there. Moreover, it make the left menu smaller, which is less >>>>>> confusing. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't like this proposal because is breaking the content >>> organization >>>>>> hierarchy: home > wiki > space > page. >>>>>> You can consider our current menu to be composed of "Content || >> User". >>>> The >>>>>> "Content" part allows you to create new content and to see your >>>> location in >>>>>> the content hierarchy. The right menu is dedicated to User related >>>> actions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also I don't like that it uses the name XWiki. Users want to >> customize >>>>>> their instance and not even show it's running on XWiki, making it >>> their >>>>>> own. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> == Proposal C == >>>>>>>> We had also this idea: >>>>>>>> > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/wiki-menu.png(proposal… http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu.png >>>>>>>> Mockup with the new skin: >>>>>>>> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/PortalMenu/Men… http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-xwiki-menu.png _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs