29 May
2018
29 May
'18
5:54 p.m.
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caty,
Ok, maybe vote is not good since I'm also asking for feedback in the mail.
The issue with this proposal is that it's a design proposal, not a full
implementation proposal. So depending on how the developer will implement
it we might need to iterate more, and at this stage of the proposal it's
hard to know how things will end up.
On 29 May 2018, at 17:23, Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi devs,
Just to make sure we are on the same page since there were some
ambiguities
on the proposal, I've put some screenshot on
how it will look like:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave#HProposal10.x
Could you give some context to explain why we need a VOTE and what you’re
asking to VOTE about?
AFAIK there’s no need to VOTE on having Visible Save button since:
* We already discussed and decided to implement visible save
* It was already put twice in the roadmap and is currently in the 10.5
roadmap (which is already started), and nobody complained
So if your email is about bringing some variations to what was decided,
it’s fine but why does it need a VOTE? A simple proposal would have been
enough IMO.
I've made a separate heading because there are some visual difference
(because of the ColorTheme change).
Proposal 10.x is made with more screenshots so that is clear how it should
look in the end. Trying to be very clear and have less ambiguities.
For the inline mode I've put 2 variations, 1 full width and the other as
current. Again, this depends if we want to add JS to the solution, if we
can find a CSS only solution, etc. Depends on the implementation.
Thanks,
Caty
This proposal extracts the save controls and puts
them on a fixed bottom
bar.
Does it mean that the vertical space for the editor is constrained and can
never be larger than the viewport minus the vertical space for the save bar?
Also on the http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave/after10.png screenshot the bar takes the full width but
on the followings screenshots the bar doesn’t. What is proposed precisely?
Could you explain what’s different between "Proposal for 9.x" and
"Proposal for 10.x" on http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
IdeaVisibleSave#HProposal10.x
I’ve checked quickly and I don’t see any difference visually.
There are some problems with the inline mode and
with the responsive
versions.
With the inline version we could decide to keep the current
behavior and have the fixed bar only in Wiki and WYSIWYG modes. I guess
we
should do some implementation tests and see
what's possible.
What problems?
At this stage I can’t VOTE since I don’t know what’s the question and it
seems to be missing some details (see my questions above).
Thanks
-Vincent
PS: It’s sad that we are so late on the design of visible save since we’ve
had months to plan this. It was already put in a roadmap at least 6 months
ago and then not finished and then put again in the roadmap several months
ago. We could have had plenty of time to discuss/tune this. Now this means
we are at risk of not finishing this for 10.5. Let’s hope we can catch up.
Thanks,
Caty