27 Jan
2010
27 Jan
'10
2:48 p.m.
On 01/27/2010 02:22 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
I've discussed it a bit with Guillaume and here
are some ideas:
* In the same manner that we have simple/advanced mode for view mode
(user type) we could also have the same for the edit mode.
* The simple edit mode would be an inplace editing mode where the
page doesn't reload and the user is shown with an edit box for
title/content (still to be decided for the parent). There would be a
button to switch to advanced edit mode.
* The advanced edit mode would be similar to the current edit mode,
i.e panels on the left removed and panels on the right replaced by
advanced edit panels, ie: included docs, syntax change, language
translations, other metadata changes, etc. There would be a button to
swtich to simple edit mode.
* Basically the idea is to do what all tools do when there's not
mandatory options to display, ie create an inspector/panel/dialog box
to move non mandatory stuff out of the main view.
WDYT?
I don't really like it. All of the fields are important and should be
displayed by default (except maybe the syntax switch, which really is an
advanced field). Having access to translations is important, and hiding
them in a different interface is not good. Changing the parent should be
easy.
And in general, people rarely go to the alternative edit mode, unless
they really want something and they're courageous and they're willing to
search for it everywhere. From my experience with users, people are not
courageous, they don't just push buttons to see what they do.
Others:
* I don't really have a pb with the other editors
(object/class).
So, you think that the class/object editors can be panelless, but the
content editors should still have panels? What about consistency and the
skin complexity? Did you read my previous email?
* For the class editor, I'd put the class
properties as vertical tabs
instead so that opening a property doesn't hide the others from the
view (ie no accordion).
What accordion? There's no accordion since 1.9. LATFW.
Thanks -Vincent
On Jan 25, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> We've been working on improving the editors (content, class,
> object), and now I have some pretty important UI changes to commit,
> but not everybody seems to agree with them, so I bring up a vote.
>
> The whole improvements can be seen on
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Improvements/ImprovedEdit
>
> Here are the individual voted points:
>
> 0 Remove all panels in edit mode
>
> 1a Parent and title above the content in wiki/wysiwyg mode
>
> 1b The same style in edit mode as in view mode for the parent/title
> fields
>
> 1c AJAX Suggest for the parent field
>
> 2a New label for the content textarea ("Content")
>
> 2b List of included documents after the Content label
>
> 3a Syntax switcher in the top right corner of the content
>
> 3b Syntax help in the top right corner of the content
>
> 3c Syntax help and switcher only in the wiki editor
>
> 4 Better label for the version comment
>
> 5a Right float the Minor edit field
>
> 5b Put the Minor edit label after the checkbox
>
> 6 Move autosave in line with the submit buttons
>
> 7 Introduce new AJAX-powered Add Object i) above the objects ii)
> bellow the objects
>
> 8 Introduce new AJAX-powered Add Object from this class i) at the
> top of the list of existing objects ii) at the end of the list
>
> 9 Move the class switcher in the top right corner
>
> 9b Remove the class switcher
>
> 10 Introduce new AJAX-powered Add Property i) at the top of the
> list of properties ii) at the end of the list
>
>
> I vote +1 for all of the above, except 9b (-0), and with options
> 7i), 8ii), and 10ii)
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/